The current battle system mainly calculate everything from Your Rank vs Mob Rank

[Chardrizard]

once again, ignoring mdef is probably the biggest factor in that equation, in fact test ints effect with monsters that are the same level. (this takes dlevel completely out of the equation), then using that data you can start to get an idea what effect your mdef vs mattack has. on your damage

was just proving that stats arent broken and 'probably' are working as intended.

>_>
also, nobody is going to test those dlvl really. It is very easy to spot on NMs, bring 5 ppl that range varies between r45-50 and takes damage from one of the NM, you have your test that dlvl equations are just that imbalance.

[Physic]

>_>
also, nobody is going to test those dlvl really. It is very easy to spot on NMs, bring 5 ppl that range varies between r45-50 and takes damage from one of the NM, you have your test that dlvl equations are just that imbalance.

once again, testing on NMs is a bad bet. they have altered stats, and i know its not about dlevel, because i can look at the exp gained, and the mob type and tell that its not even a high level monster.

[Chardrizard]

once again, testing on NMs is a bad bet. they have altered stats, and i know its not about dlevel, because i can look at the exp gained, and the mob type and tell that its not even a high level monster.

fine bring r15-r20 glad to a crab at cassipeia hollow.

[Kurokikaze]

fine bring r15-r20 glad to a crab at cassipeia hollow.

Dude I like how its the guy that isn't 50, not providing proof or testing his own hypothesis trying to sell US on his theory.

As I said before;

Theorycrafting damage formulas are done specifically for the purpose of performing well in End-Game. Testing on NMs and mobs that are at the floor are the most important monsters that can be tested on. No one cares about your damage at any other level but the cap.

[Chardrizard]

Dude I like how its the guy that isn't 50, not providing proof or testing his own hypothesis trying to sell US on his theory.

sounds normal, that is how this forum runs isnt it?

[Physic]

ok heres really numbers

surf eft level 42 pug level 58 eft
dlevel 16

damage with weathered hora heavy strike 18-20
damage with level 39 boarskin cesti hevey strike 50-54

level 42 pug, level 61 biast
damage with weathered hora heavy strike 14-16
damage with boarskin cesti 25-26

so yeah attack does matter, but it had no effect when you fought the nm..... hmmm COULD IT BE THE NM AND NOT THE DLEVEL OHHHH SNAP THATS CRAZY TALK

[Reika]

ok heres really numbers

surf eft level 42 pug level 58 eft
dlevel 16

damage with weathered hora heavy strike 18-20
damage with level 39 boarskin cesti hevey strike 50-54

level 42 pug, level 61 biast
damage with weathered hora heavy strike 14-16
damage with boarskin cesti 25-26

so yeah attack does matter, but it had no effect when you fought the nm..... hmmm COULD IT BE THE NM AND NOT THE DLEVEL OHHHH SNAP THATS CRAZY TALK

Then there was the lancer in my party with the wethered spear. I was upset that she was doing close to equal damage as me >.> apparently that person was also testing it out too.
And I believe it is the closer you get to the targets rank, the less your weapon matters. which goes back to Rank vs Rank having too much of a role in the end judgment.

[Physic]

Then there was the lancer in my party with the wethered spear. I was upset that she was doing close to equal damage as me >.> apparently that person was also testing it out too.
And I believe it is the closer you get to the targets rank, the less your weapon matters. which goes back to Rank vs Rank having too much of a role in the end judgment.

so what your are saying is that dlevel actually makes you less effective for fighting things close to your level? and the reason people are mad is because when they are the same level as uraeus, their weapons wont matter?
actually reika, before i even test this, it probably comes down to weapons only giving attack, and attack most likely functions versus defense, so once your attack is high enough you wont see much difference because you are both overcoming their defense.
as far as i know weapons give no base damage increases like in FF

Well i can perform some tests on this is as well

edit: ok i performed some tests, and i get way more damage on boarskin even on monster that is level 38. something like 50% 110-120 versus 50s

to kuro, ok ill just ignore you now, because you aint saying anything of value.

[Kurokikaze]

ok heres really numbers

surf eft level 42 pug level 58 eft
dlevel 16

damage with weathered hora heavy strike 18-20
damage with level 39 boarskin cesti hevey strike 50-54

level 42 pug, level 61 biast
damage with weathered hora heavy strike 14-16
damage with boarskin cesti 25-26

so yeah attack does matter, but it had no effect when you fought the nm..... hmmm COULD IT BE THE NM AND NOT THE DLEVEL OHHHH SNAP THATS CRAZY TALK

Wow... you have got to be trolling. LOL if you posted this on BG you would be banned immediately.

That sad part is that you probably won't understand why this test itself is flawed.

[Physic]

Wow... you have got to be trolling. LOL if you posted this on BG you would be banned immediately.

That sad part is that you probably won't understand why this test itself is flawed.

I am not on BG, why is the test flawed, cause this isnt BG