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    It's not an exploit.

    "Clever use of game mechanics" = What happened in FFXI with Ninja. They where not meant to tank.

    Exploit = Making it work differently to intended.

    Now let's check here.

    Are those mobs part of the fate? Yes.
    Are they intended to be killed? Yup.
    Did anyone do anything to make them act in a way they shouldn't? nope.
    Did a player make them not count towards completion? No. S-E coded them like that.
    Does killing them break the fate in anyway? No, it's still completable and mobs work as they are intended.

    Exploiting is bad, mm'kay?
    Of course, if you go by the definition of exploit when it comes to gaming. If you go by what the word really means, then no, it's not bad.
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    Op is mad because he got kicked from a DD group because he didn't have holy.
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    Oh god the light, It hurts my eyes to do that fate
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amberion View Post
    It's not an exploit.

    "Clever use of game mechanics" = What happened in FFXI with Ninja. They where not meant to tank.

    Exploit = Making it work differently to intended.

    Now let's check here.

    Are those mobs part of the fate? Yes.
    Are they intended to be killed? Yup.
    Did anyone do anything to make them act in a way they shouldn't? nope.
    Did a player make them not count towards completion? No. S-E coded them like that.
    Does killing them break the fate in anyway? No, it's still completable and mobs work as they are intended.



    Of course, if you go by the definition of exploit when it comes to gaming. If you go by what the word really means, then no, it's not bad.
    What does it mean "it's part of the fate" or "the dev coded it this way".
    Of course the devs coded it this way. But if it's a dev error it's going to be corrected. It's not like devs code an exploit on purpose waiting for the first guy to find it and make a message pop with "congratulations you found it. here, take these 10k bonus exp".

    Exploits are errors coded in the game abused by others. When SE officially says that it's working as intended then you can claim that it's working as intended. Until then stop bashing a possible exploit report, otherwise, if it will get corrected, you are just adding more and more shame on yourself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZohnoReecho View Post
    What does it mean "it's part of the fate" or "the dev coded it this way".
    Of course the devs coded it this way. But if it's a dev error it's going to be corrected. It's not like devs code an exploit on purpose waiting for the first guy to find it and make a message pop with "congratulations you found it. here, take these 10k bonus exp".

    Exploits are errors coded in the game abused by others. When SE officially says that it's working as intended then you can claim that it's working as intended. Until then stop bashing a possible exploit report, otherwise, if it will get corrected, you are just adding more and more shame on yourself.
    I don't think you got what I was saying. I was just pointing out the difference in what an exploit is, compare to taking advantage of a game mechanic.

    And even if they fix it to how they want, it does not make it an exploit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amberion View Post
    I don't think you got what I was saying. I was just pointing out the difference in what an exploit is, compare to taking advantage of a game mechanic.

    And even if they fix it to how they want, it does not make it an exploit.
    An exploit is a piece of software, a chunk of data, or sequence of commands that takes advantage of a bug, glitch or vulnerability in order to cause unintended or unanticipated behaviour to occur on computer software, hardware, or something electronic (usually computerised).
    Think what you want, but I call it an exploit.
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    Lots of people in this thread have apparently not played 1.0 at launch (or 11). You will get banned for exp exploits (like the one in the first week of 1.0 launch) and frankly SE doesn't care about your opinion of whether it's an exploit or not. But hey, they were being nice in 1.0 and allowed people to turn themselves in and get reset hundreds of thousands of exp and skill points. The people who didn't got banned pretty quick. And if the past is anything to go by, you can be banned by exploits you did years back too. It really doesn't matter if you think it's legitimate or not. If SE believes that this is not intended, they will ban users who abused this.
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