Dark Devices - Phase 1 Exploit

[OrigamiElephant]

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Hey "Mr Piss on everyone's parade" did you ever stop to think that when SE was fixing the AK and WP "exploits" that if they say the farming of Dark Devices for XP to be unintended they would have fixed that as well?

It absolutely does not affect you. But YOU are here making one of the first threads I've seen calling for a direct nerf to a clever use of game mechanics to speed up leveling once per hour or two.

Just stop.

[Jynx]

clever use of game mechanics.

Hey that's what people called the speed runs right? I'm glad someone brought this to the forums attention hopefully they do something about it. I'm still blown away by how desperate people are to level in this game.

[Badger]

Hey "Mr Piss on everyone's parade" did you ever stop to think that when SE was fixing the AK and WP "exploits" that if they say the farming of Dark Devices for XP to be unintended they would have fixed that as well?

It absolutely does not affect you. But YOU are here making one of the first threads I've seen calling for a direct nerf to a clever use of game mechanics to speed up leveling once per hour or two.

Just stop.

"Clever use of game mechanics" is code for "something that is probably an exploit but I'm too dishonest with myself and others to admit that I am exploiting."

People sit in groups and camp this spot waiting for it to pop so they can earn a quick 245,000 XP. These are people who aren't doing any other FATEs or dungeons in the meantime because of this low hanging fruit. There is no reasonable justification for the obscene amount of XP this FATE gives over every other fate in the game. Exploiting is bad, mm'kay?

I won't stop until it's fixed. I don't care if I piss off a few people who lack integrity in the process. Thanks for the bump!

[AltaneenXIV]

"Clever use of game mechanics" is code for "something that is probably an exploit but I'm too dishonest with myself and others to admit that I am exploiting."

People sit in groups and camp this spot waiting for it to pop so they can earn a quick 245,000 XP. These are people who aren't doing any other FATEs or dungeons in the meantime because of this low hanging fruit. There is no reasonable justification for the obscene amount of XP this FATE gives over every other fate in the game. Exploiting is bad, mm'kay?

I won't stop until it's fixed. I don't care if I piss off a few people who lack integrity in the process. Thanks for the bump!

@U Screen Shot or it didn't happen.

On my server every fate party, even the ones built with classes in mind specifically to get the most out of DD, wait in town and go from fate to fate till DD pops.
No one who is farming DD that hard is going to sit the long amount of time it takes for DD to repop, and miss all of the exp from other fates.

@B I won't stop using it, because it does not need to be fixed. I don't care if it pisses off one guy in the process.

INB4 you preach at me for leveling up with it. I haven't gained one drop of exp from DD. I was 50 before I knew it existed. I've only used it for spiritbonding as of now.

I will use it for my next class though, please look forward to it.

[silentwindfr]

exploit or not, the trouble is more about the reaction of the other. let's say you play dragoon, you can't get this exp the other get, mostly because dragoon in AoE is not...well you get the point.
what is your solution? wait the other have gather all this exp? or try to get your medal by doing the fate?
if you choice the second solution you will be insulted believe me, did happend to me.

@silverharp: pointing thing that mustn't be done, it's your role as customer. other point a loooot of thread was created for ask the increase of the reward on the leves or give us daily to do. sadly for now the only answer we did get was:
the leves are not means to be used for level up, but for give acces to play mode different than what you do normally. FATE and dungeon are means to be used for level up.

i think they have miss the point that fate have become ugly, mostly because of this news trend of the fate party (i have done some too) i don't find this...fun... i found it stupid and boring and choice any word that please you. i hope they will understand this and make us get more different way to level up. or they will have changed the monster party into fate party...

[Amberion]

It's not an exploit.

"Clever use of game mechanics" = What happened in FFXI with Ninja. They where not meant to tank.

Exploit = Making it work differently to intended.

Now let's check here.

Are those mobs part of the fate? Yes.
Are they intended to be killed? Yup.
Did anyone do anything to make them act in a way they shouldn't? nope.
Did a player make them not count towards completion? No. S-E coded them like that.
Does killing them break the fate in anyway? No, it's still completable and mobs work as they are intended.

Exploiting is bad, mm'kay?

Of course, if you go by the definition of exploit when it comes to gaming. If you go by what the word really means, then no, it's not bad.

[WinterNights]

Op is mad because he got kicked from a DD group because he didn't have holy.

[Ultimaetus]

Oh god the light, It hurts my eyes to do that fate

[ZohnoReecho]

It's not an exploit.

"Clever use of game mechanics" = What happened in FFXI with Ninja. They where not meant to tank.

Exploit = Making it work differently to intended.

Now let's check here.

Are those mobs part of the fate? Yes.
Are they intended to be killed? Yup.
Did anyone do anything to make them act in a way they shouldn't? nope.
Did a player make them not count towards completion? No. S-E coded them like that.
Does killing them break the fate in anyway? No, it's still completable and mobs work as they are intended.



Of course, if you go by the definition of exploit when it comes to gaming. If you go by what the word really means, then no, it's not bad.

What does it mean "it's part of the fate" or "the dev coded it this way".
Of course the devs coded it this way. But if it's a dev error it's going to be corrected. It's not like devs code an exploit on purpose waiting for the first guy to find it and make a message pop with "congratulations you found it. here, take these 10k bonus exp".

Exploits are errors coded in the game abused by others. When SE officially says that it's working as intended then you can claim that it's working as intended. Until then stop bashing a possible exploit report, otherwise, if it will get corrected, you are just adding more and more shame on yourself.

[Amberion]

What does it mean "it's part of the fate" or "the dev coded it this way".
Of course the devs coded it this way. But if it's a dev error it's going to be corrected. It's not like devs code an exploit on purpose waiting for the first guy to find it and make a message pop with "congratulations you found it. here, take these 10k bonus exp".

Exploits are errors coded in the game abused by others. When SE officially says that it's working as intended then you can claim that it's working as intended. Until then stop bashing a possible exploit report, otherwise, if it will get corrected, you are just adding more and more shame on yourself.

I don't think you got what I was saying. I was just pointing out the difference in what an exploit is, compare to taking advantage of a game mechanic.

And even if they fix it to how they want, it does not make it an exploit.