Players connot join the party while you are engaged in combat

[Ava]

As you can see by the discussion taking place, there are many facets involved in the current design of not being able to invite while engaged. We checked in with the dev. team and were informed that because we have not designed content centered around the need to swap party members, we do not plan on changing this. However, depending on the content we add in the future, there is a possibility that we may change our policy or implement specific exceptions.

There will always be "what about [xyz] instance!" where being unable to invite is a hindrance, but overall the system was designed for specific purposes. We do appreciate the comments and feedback presented, and I'll be sure to pass these along as well.

Thank you for the response to this, but I think that should be reconsidered. While I think this type of mindset is acceptable in certain situations, those situations should be player controlled situations. When a player gets disconnected, it's not something the player has any control over. If you are going to stick to this mindset, then at least make it so that disconnected players do not leave the party upon disconnecting.

[Physic]

Convenient saying that now... I'm positive you'd be singing a different tune if you popped an NM using your hard earned items and lost your healer or tank. Sure you can try to survive till they get back but as it stands theres no point since they won't be able to rejoin. Congrats on time wasted; I guess thats what makes this game hard.

disengage and re engage, it takes about 20 seconds of being not engaged to leave combat. If solo thaums can do it, why cant an organized team? You dont need the monster to fully regen, the mobs dont chase you infinitely in this game, just zone the mob, or bind it and kite for 20 seconds

[Tezz_Xivectro]

I do like the definitive answer (well as definitive as we re going to get anyhow) that was given, so now you can either take it or leave it, the system is as it is.

Definite for existing content. It's subject to change for "Future content" if they think it needs it.

Abstractly, it just seems like SE is being lazy & unwilling to deal with some of their bad design problems since they're so busy working on content. They should have kept this to themselves or waited another month or 2.

[Zenaku]

They could easy do what WoW does when you d/c your name say d/c then when you log back in you in the party. Players could also kick you if you never log back in.

[Scherwiz]

Too bad, so sad that your plans to Archer->Multishot->change to thaumaturge->chainspell->shadowsear->shadowsear->thaumatank punishing barb->archer archer archer archer->pull connection plug if got hate->relog->get in party->archer archer archer archer archer...aren't going to work.

Look, we all know exactly how you all planned to win difficult endgame content. Knew it since beta. You're just going to have to come up with a better idea. You think the above adds "tactics" and "challenge." The rest of us just think it's pathetic.

Did someone kill a pet of yours with an arrow or something? You seem to love to bash archer a lot.

[Physic]

i was opposed to invites to party while engaged from the start. , while i could see the DC being inconvienient, there is a solution. Spending time trying to solve all the issues with keeping hate, disconnecting and reconneting to the same data, querys showing in game and what not, is a waste of time imo, when you could just disengage and re invite. Getting DCed sucks, but thats life.

[Peregrine]

Thank you for the response to this, but I think that should be reconsidered. While I think this type of mindset is acceptable in certain situations, those situations should be player controlled situations. When a player gets disconnected, it's not something the player has any control over. If you are going to stick to this mindset, then at least make it so that disconnected players do not leave the party upon disconnecting.

It shouldn't be and hasn't been reconsidered for a reason. You can't differentiate between an illegitimate and a legitimate DC. Period. Most endgame DCs in FFXI were illegitimate and intentional. Most party swaps were illegitimate and intentional. If you allow it, most action will be illegitimate. Some actions are so prone to abuse that they're not allowed to be performed, even by well-intending people. Sorry. That's the way life works, and you are not so revolutionary to come along at your age at this time and suddenly make everyone realize how wrong it is. You're wrong. Society is right.

It works this way for the stability of the society, which is above and more important than your personal wishes.

[Physic]

Definite for existing content. It's subject to change for "Future content" if they think it needs it.

Abstractly, it just seems like SE is being lazy & unwilling to deal with some of their bad design problems since they're so busy working on content. They should have kept this to themselves or waited another month or 2.

better they tell people now, when an issue isnt seriously being considered than to keep them guessing, or wondering if its going to change. They got to make descions, no reason to hide the.

[Kilta_Firelotus]

Honestly, ppl tend to not care or wait for the dc person anyway. Most of the time ppl assume it was intentional. I can't count the number of times i dc and the group went off wo me.

Honestly you guys up in arms over this responce are pretty silly. You are acting like it is the worst thing ever when it isn't. People have stated solutions and you guys are acting like children. Suggestion, stop crying over spilt milk.

[Peregrine]

Did someone kill a pet of yours with an arrow or something? You seem to love to bash archer a lot.

Archer's a problem job played by problem players. Always has been, always will be until devs stop pandering to the kinds of people who threaten to not play if their job isn't broken. These are the same kinds of players who would champion the ability to switch to archer on the fly and disconnect their archer from the party at will, then get back in it.

Duh, watched them do that in XI for years. Of course they want the ability to do that.