Which gameplay features actually have "mass appeal" ?

[Shiyo]

I agree Darkstarpoet, in FF11 I always felt like there was something to work towards, and there always was. You also level so fast in FF14 1-10 it's like "what happened to my levels?!" If I duo with my girlfriend or a friend on a rank1 job, and leve link the TUTORIAL rank1 mission leve, I'll go from level 1-5 in 1 mob. The mob dies very easily and isn't even a challenge either. What happened to levels 2-4? Do they need to not exist? 1-10 also takes less than 5 mins.

Hopefully the leveling part gets fixed, because that's just completely retarded. There still isn't anything to strive for. I don't need to level to 18 for a SJ, I don't need 30 to unlock the job I want to play, I don't need 37 to finish my sub, I don't need 50 for AF1, I don't need 28/32/whatever for my RSE, I don't need 60 for full AF, I don't need20 for 2-3, I don't need 30 for kazham keys, I don't need to level up so I can get TH2 to farm better to get gil faster so I can level faster by having HQ/better gear, I don't need to level up more so I can farm harder mobs for more gil/hour or kill weaker mobs faster for more gil/hour,I don't need to level to learn new awesome looking or amazing WS/powerful ability/powerful spell(refresh? ballad 2? tier4 nukes? convert? sublimation? utsu: ni? utsu: ichi ?flash?) etc etc.

This game has no goals, and nothing feels earned, everything feels like it's handed to you for zero effort.. It's horrible.

[darkstarpoet1]

that's basically what i was getting at, but i did not play xi so i am not basing that game on what i want to see.

people want more specialized classes. it would seem to be pretty simple to add a few quests for each class that you access for every so many levels. these quest would allow the class specific abilities and would not be able to be used by other classes. it would give someone wanting to specialize in thm for example something they would be able to work towards that only another thm can have and have that omg i finally got it feeling.

little things like quests to be able to access different aspects in game would be a great addition. i know things like these will eventually be in game, but just seemed on release there would have been at least a hint of these for us to see that they had things for us to look forward to in the future. outside the r42 and r46 quests there was really nothing in this game i looked and said i can't wait to see what happens next.

[Sonic_the_Hedgehog]

I agree Darkstarpoet, in FF11 I always felt like there was something to work towards, and there always was. You also level so fast in FF14 1-10 it's like "what happened to my levels?!" If I duo with my girlfriend or a friend on a rank1 job, and leve link the TUTORIAL rank1 mission leve, I'll go from level 1-5 in 1 mob. The mob dies very easily and isn't even a challenge either. What happened to levels 2-4? Do they need to not exist? 1-10 also takes less than 5 mins.

It's obvious what they need to do, just change the amount of EXP/SP needed to progress to the next level. I wouldn't be surprised if they're planning on doing that with the battle update or when they take out the physical levels.

[MaxWinter]

The first 20 levels (ranks) in ff14 are about right, then the exp curve goes up.
I think it is where it should be in exp needed for next level.

[Duelle]

I so miss this!

You miss sitting around waiting for invites when you were playing the "wrong" class that did not contribute to the overall goal of getting the most exp/hour? I certainly do not miss forced partying.