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  1. #111
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    You're making a measurable claim here. What reason do I have to trust you over the actual developers?
    The developers put the feature in because some very vocal players demanded it, not because it was critical to bringing the servers to stability- which they had already mostly achieved after the first maintenance.

    It's a simple fact: An active player performing actions has to communicate more data with the server than one that isn't doing anything. Your S / R network information are higher when you are active than when you are not. While there are a limited number of connection slots avialable, we didn't seem to be hitting them last week. If we're not hitting that limit, there is no reason to kick people. A better method, if people were to insist on kicking people, would be to simply kick the longest idle people first, if and only if the servers reach like 95% of capacity, rather than kicking people after an arbitrary amount of time. That is to say, kick people if and only if room needs to be made, not just because the've been there so long.
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  2. #112
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    Kuari Thunderclaw
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    My only issue with it is it seems to kick you if you're sitting around, paging through crafter pages, market, etc, counting that as being inactive :/. Yes I did that a couple times for around half an hour.
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  3. #113
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    Mikita Nightsong
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    Anima
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    Just a note from the other side of the pond... It has still been very difficult to get into many of the high population Japanese servers even after the first upgrade. I spent about 2 hours trying to get on just a few days ago... then about 45 minutes trying to get back in after DC'ing during a zone change.

    This auto-logout timer will probably make getting to play easier by giving priority to actively playing people over people who go AFK.

    That said, I do hope they remove it if/when it is no longer necessary... or perhaps extend the timer to a few hours rather than just 30 minutes. A rep on the Japanese side said that they will continue to evaluate the situation and make adjustments as necessary.
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  4. #114
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    Part of the appeal of an MMO is going afk in a city or camp while you wait for something.

    Maybe I want to read while I wait on the duty finder. Maybe I want to put some laundry in because I know my friend will be on in 40 minutes.
    I can sit on a bench or at the bar making the game more immersive for people passing by.

    Cities and areas altogether will seem more empty. As soon as the servers are reliable and no one has issues getting online; I really hope this becomes optional.
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  5. #115
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    Yuu Jin
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    Lancer Lv 50
    Lazy people I tell you
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  6. #116
    Quote Originally Posted by Balashark View Post
    Just make a jump macro! G510 keyboard, Razer Naga FTW!
    Please don't encourage people to do this.

    The chances are high that they will:
    a. be considered a botter by a player and reported to GM who, when trying to engage them in conversation will see also that they are afk and likely consider them to be botting.
    b. be considered a botter by a gm and lose their account.
    All the while gillspamshout rmt's are not getting the attention of that GM.


    A note to OP, the message said that the afk auto kick will be in force during times where there are login restrictions in place. Perhaps this means that when no login restrictions are in place, it will be removed.
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  7. #117
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
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    I see your point, but who's to say exactly how their servers handle individual player data? You're still sending and receiving information even when idle. The game needs to constantly send you information about what is happening around you and needs to check that you're still there. Even at small amounts, it's still using up space. And that adds up from player to player.

    It just clears up space for more active players. A cleanup. Even if we're far from capacity it works to prevent it happening in the future. Which brings us to your idea of only activating when reaching high capacity, but how would an average player know when that is? Perhaps a warning of some sort?

    All this aside, I don't really see why not have it. I have yet to see a good solid reason why someone needs to be idle for more than an hour. (I do think 30 minutes is a little short to be honest.)

    Quote Originally Posted by Kuari View Post
    My only issue with it is it seems to kick you if you're sitting around, paging through crafter pages, market, etc, counting that as being inactive :/. Yes I did that a couple times for around half an hour.
    Well that's not good. That's not good at all. Menu interaction should count as playing. Chatting too. Any actual interaction should count for gameplay.

    Quote Originally Posted by Moth View Post
    Standing around waiting for an unspoiled node to pop? Can't do that, gotta run around like a maniac.
    Or just move a bit within every 30 minutes.
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    Last edited by Gramul; 09-13-2013 at 02:57 PM.

  8. #118
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    Taiga Inktooth
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    Quote Originally Posted by Criminalcoffee View Post
    Part of the appeal of an MMO is going afk in a city or camp while you wait for something.

    Maybe I want to read while I wait on the duty finder. Maybe I want to put some laundry in because I know my friend will be on in 40 minutes.
    I can sit on a bench or at the bar making the game more immersive for people passing by.

    Cities and areas altogether will seem more empty. As soon as the servers are reliable and no one has issues getting online; I really hope this becomes optional.


    My thoughts exactly. Might as well get rid of all the cute little chairs and benches everywhere, they are pointless now. Get rid of /away and /busy, it is pointless now. Standing around waiting for an unspoiled node to pop? Can't do that, gotta run around like a maniac. Sitting in town just chatting or RPing? Nope, gotta move around. I hope this because optional as well, it really should be. Once the monthly payments kick into gear i'm sure 30% of the population will be quitting anyways. There are no more full world errors anymore. It really is a useless feature, and will make the world appear empty.
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    Last edited by Moth; 09-13-2013 at 02:57 PM.

  9. #119
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    I think 30mins is a little too short, maybe it could be increased a little to between 1 to 2hrs. Anything more really means you are doing something else as top priority at the moment.
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  10. #120
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    Amphelice Shepard
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    Siren
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    Red Mage Lv 70
    Yes, it's so IMMERSIVE to have an army of people gone for the day standing around at an Aetheryte set to away...
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    Last edited by gti443; 09-13-2013 at 04:24 PM.

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