Gearscore is coming!

[Yshnal]

The problem with the GS is not that you can't enter a dungeon if you're below the required minimum, as that's a good idea, but that we'll have a plague of players asking unrealistic GS numbers and creating a bad mood/environment within the community. If you ask me, the GS number should be private. If someone is curious enough to double check it they can always inspect your gear, as just checking a GS number is not enough, as many of you know (they could manipulate the system).

So, to make it short, why give more tools to the jerks to jerk around easier? It's too bad already with what we have (see current dungeon discussions).

[TheWitcher]

This isent really gearscore, because its governed by the system, this isent people wanting Bahamut coil gear to do garuda HM's

[ElHeggunte]

The problem with the GS is not that you can't enter a dungeon if you're below the required minimum, as that's a good idea, but that we'll have a plague of players asking unrealistic GS numbers and...

...So, to make it short, why give more tools to the jerks to jerk around easier? It's too bad already with what we have (see current dungeon discussions).

So don't run with those types of people and make your own groups or go with friends. People being jerks isn't a good reason to not implement a necessary system. A minimum ilevel for queuing for high-level instances is a good thing no matter how you slice it. Skill can only get you so far and if you're undergeared for the content you're just screwing over the other people in your group who came prepared. Duty Finder lumps you together with perfect strangers so there needs to be a little bit of insurance in place to give you a shot at clearing the content.

[texhnolyze]

i have questions about the gearscore..

what if we want to help the fresh 50s of our FC to do some high gearscore duty?
will it be totally cannot be done?
will they make it that we can turn on/off the gearscore requirements?

[Kaedan94]

We already have item level. All they're doing is adding an item level requirement to queues.

i have questions about the gearscore..

what if we want to help the fresh 50s of our FC to do some high gearscore duty?

This will not be possible. Not because the system won't let them in, but because you won't be able to complete the content with people in poor gear. This restriction only applies to high level content (i.e. hard modes, etc)

[Morini]

I guess I will chime in...

Gearscore is only good to confirm if the player has a certain level of gear that would be acceptable to push forward in.... So if someone runs in with level 20 gear in a level 45 dungeon.. They might be spanked.

That being said, Warcraft went from being skill based to gear based and key mashing. You used to be able to have mediocre gear, with some enchants on them, and as a group work through content based on each ones knowledge and experience in that class, and how you work together and create a sort of synergy.

We need to remember that skill and class knowledge, and playing well with others, can never be replaced by gearscore.. Not unless you want a ton of crappy players in your group.

You want to be able to master your class and build core groups. Gearscore should be nothing more then a tool or measurement to ensure compliance of some sort.

[msauce]

"addition of a party recruitment window"-Thank god!

[thedevilsjester]

The kind of people that whine because you choose to enjoy the game, rather than treat it as an accounting job trying to crunch numbers, make grouping less enjoyable and I see a system like this (for most content) as a way to encourage these people and restrict group content.

The exceptions are the elite content (HM Primals and the Binding Coil), which absolutely should be restricted to those with adequate gear for the task.

If the (non elite content) restrictions are reasonable (and I mean general consensus reasonable, not what the vocal hardcore think is reasonable), then I could get behind such a system, provided it quiets all the whining about gear levels.

[texhnolyze]

We already have item level. All they're doing is adding an item level requirement to queues.



This will not be possible. Not because the system won't let them in, but because you won't be able to complete the content with people in poor gear. This restriction only applies to high level content (i.e. hard modes, etc)

i see
i'd like to know the requirements for each duty
i hope the first two 50 dungeons (Wanderer & Amdapor) won't have too high gearscore requirements
because those dungeons are the main source of fresh 50s to gear up, right?
as for primals hard, yes we actually need high gearscore for those

[SKYeXile]

i have questions about the gearscore..

what if we want to help the fresh 50s of our FC to do some high gearscore duty?
will it be totally cannot be done?
will they make it that we can turn on/off the gearscore requirements?

i would hope for preformed partys there would be no iLvl requirement as its then your choice to be carrying that person.