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    Gearscore is coming!

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post1232837


    Greetings,

    The development team is aware that there are times when you cannot participate in content so easily and without worry, and I’d like to let you know future countermeasures we have planned to address this.
    Significantly reduce repair fees and the cost of dark matter
    While the focus will be placed on high-levels, we will be significantly lowering the overall fees for repair and the cost of dark matter.

    Addition of item level requirements for high-level dungeon participation
    We'll be adding a requirement to participate in high-level dungeons and hard mode primal battles that will make it so you need to have equipment above a certain item level equipped to participate. To coincide with this, we will be implementing a system that will display the average item level for your gear in the character window.

    Addition of a party recruitment window
    We'll be implementing a bulletin board type of system where you can recruit party members that are only on your world. When recruiting, you can indicate the dungeon you would like to do, the roles you are looking to recruit, the levels, etc. (We'll be announcing the details soon.)

    We will be addressing #1 after the maintenance tomorrow, and #2 and #3 will be implemented after patch 2.1.
    I'm personally excited at the prospect...just hopefully it doesn't count cloth gear for tanks etc and other ways of exploiting the system.
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    Last edited by SKYeXile; 09-11-2013 at 09:40 AM.

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    Something tells me this is going to push away a lot of players ( unless the gear score is reasonable) If you need like all Darklight gear to do end game content then this will sure back fire. I feel people shouldn't be restricted of content because there gear isn't up to snuff.

    *This doesn't effect me in anyway shape or form, I just feel people will leave if they get restricted because of their gear.* Take it as you will.
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    Last edited by Starlord; 09-11-2013 at 10:16 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starlord View Post
    Something tells me this is going to push away a lot of players ( unless the gear score is reasonable) If you need like all Darklight gear to do end game content then this will sure back fire. I feel people should be restricted of content because there gear isn't up to snuff.

    *This doesn't effect me in anyway shape or form, I just feel people will leave if they get restricted because of their gear.* Take it as you will.
    I'm fairly confident that the requirements won't be severe. I'd imagine that it'd be only to prevent very undergeared people from participating in lv50 content (folks still using mostly ~lv30 gear at 50). Like perhaps you could gain access to high level dungeons (I'm assuming they're referring to 46+) by having at least all lv40 gear or whatnot. Scale as it progresses.
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    Hikozaemon Kenkonken
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starlord View Post
    Something tells me this is going to push away a lot of players ( unless the gear score is reasonable) If you need like all Darklight gear to do end game content then this will sure back fire. I feel people should be restricted of content because there gear isn't up to snuff.

    *This doesn't effect me in anyway shape or form, I just feel people will leave if they get restricted because of their gear.* Take it as you will.
    problem is gearscore wont fix bad players w/ bad skills or bad attitudes.
    And on another note a lot of darklight gear for its ilvl isnt even that good. the Crafted ilvl gear w/ a few materia are far superior for most jobs.
    people act like idiots/assholes during instances because they believe there is no repercussions to it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hikozaemon View Post
    people act like idiots/assholes during instances because they believe there is no repercussions to it.
    I was trying to do Garuda hard for the first time, wiped a few times and had to re-queue for another (since a pld that couldn't keep hate force d/c'd after calling us a 'fail grp'), wiped once with new group, and a real piece of work DRG decided to go /sit in a corner while calling people idiots. I said 'someone wants to get reported for griefing...' and on the next run he bucked up. Not before I reported him though.
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    Last edited by Amyas; 09-11-2013 at 10:24 AM.

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    Xystel Unaki
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hikozaemon View Post
    problem is gearscore wont fix bad players w/ bad skills or bad attitudes.
    And on another note a lot of darklight gear for its ilvl isnt even that good. the Crafted ilvl gear w/ a few materia are far superior for most jobs.
    people act like idiots/assholes during instances because they believe there is no repercussions to it.
    In order to get that crafted gear at the level of darklight you have to overmeld it and with how expensive rank 3 materia is, you are better off going for Darklight. It takes less time to get Darklight than it does to get the materials to craft said items because most of the gear requires stuff like Coke or Animal Fat (Which also requires tomes)
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    Anyone who starts by shouting "Oh no, Im gonna be restricted! Skillz iz bettar then gearz! Uwwwaaahhh!" needs to actually reach the endgame content. Things like Castrum, Praetorium, Keep and Palace? Those won't be affected because having your AF is fine and dandy for them and each one of those are entry level so the restrictions won't be harsh (At most I see them requiring level 40+ gear) but the Hard Mode primals and Binding Coil of Bahamut are entirely different beasts. I don't see Ifrit being too restricted either because you can kill him pretty easily as long as you can destroy the nails in a timely manner and interrupt his Eruption when its up.

    After Ifrit is where things get dicey. You can dodge AOEs, cones, have a perfect rotation, etc but if you cannot put up the damage to finish off Garuda after the eye of the storm, ever 10 seconds adds to your chance of wiping. Then you have Titan where, honestly, you cannot use the Duty Finder. If you don't have at least 4 pieces of Darklight (3 if you went for the tank pants and chest) and at least the lvl 49 jewelry and Ifrit weapon you are going to wipe and will never beat him. He puts out way too much damage for base AF gear to even mitigate.

    Just face it, people are already asking for you to do Titan with at least 4 DL pieces and for good reason.

    EDIT: Forgot to mention that if you Duty Finder Titan, every group usually has that one special kid who got carried through Ifrit and Garuda with a lot of 38 or less gear. Guess who is the first to die?
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    Last edited by Unaki; 09-11-2013 at 10:25 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starlord View Post
    Something tells me this is going to push away a lot of players ( unless the gear score is reasonable) If you need like all Darklight gear to do end game content then this will sure back fire. I feel people shouldn't be restricted of content because there gear isn't up to snuff
    Nah, if people leave because of this then obviously they're playing the wrong game. This game requires some patience in certain areas and seeing some of the most ADD-ridden people leaving would be a good thing for the community.
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    Quote Originally Posted by makii View Post
    Nah, if people leave because of this then obviously they're playing the wrong game. This game requires some patience in certain areas and seeing some of the most ADD-ridden people leaving would be a good thing for the community.
    The restriction is only acceptable if it's set to the minimum level at which the fight is slightly possible. If people are forced to obtain better gear than is truly necessary just to participate, there WILL be a lot of pushback from the community.
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    Quote Originally Posted by makii View Post
    Nah, if people leave because of this then obviously they're playing the wrong game. This game requires some patience in certain areas and seeing some of the most ADD-ridden people leaving would be a good thing for the community.
    The problem is that most of the people complaining about Gear not being up to their standards are the people not patient because they're rushing to endgame for the best gear and best stuff as soon as they can.

    The current patient members of the community are currently building their character by getting their cross-skills, crafts, gather, and gear ready first before jumping into Endgame and not expecting everyone to already have a full Darklight set and Relic Weapon.
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