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    Kaedan94's Avatar
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    Kinako Kuromitsu
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    We already have item level. All they're doing is adding an item level requirement to queues.

    Quote Originally Posted by texhnolyze View Post
    i have questions about the gearscore..

    what if we want to help the fresh 50s of our FC to do some high gearscore duty?
    This will not be possible. Not because the system won't let them in, but because you won't be able to complete the content with people in poor gear. This restriction only applies to high level content (i.e. hard modes, etc)
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    Zen Endymion
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaedan94 View Post
    We already have item level. All they're doing is adding an item level requirement to queues.



    This will not be possible. Not because the system won't let them in, but because you won't be able to complete the content with people in poor gear. This restriction only applies to high level content (i.e. hard modes, etc)
    i see
    i'd like to know the requirements for each duty
    i hope the first two 50 dungeons (Wanderer & Amdapor) won't have too high gearscore requirements
    because those dungeons are the main source of fresh 50s to gear up, right?
    as for primals hard, yes we actually need high gearscore for those

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    Quote Originally Posted by texhnolyze View Post
    i see
    i'd like to know the requirements for each duty
    i hope the first two 50 dungeons (Wanderer & Amdapor) won't have too high gearscore requirements
    because those dungeons are the main source of fresh 50s to gear up, right?
    as for primals hard, yes we actually need high gearscore for those
    I think Ilvl avg of 45 is fine for amdapor. that would mean you would need afew 50 pieces, your 45 AF gear and you might be all right with one or 2 pieces still of bad accessories.
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    Garazan Morini
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    I guess I will chime in...

    Gearscore is only good to confirm if the player has a certain level of gear that would be acceptable to push forward in.... So if someone runs in with level 20 gear in a level 45 dungeon.. They might be spanked.

    That being said, Warcraft went from being skill based to gear based and key mashing. You used to be able to have mediocre gear, with some enchants on them, and as a group work through content based on each ones knowledge and experience in that class, and how you work together and create a sort of synergy.

    We need to remember that skill and class knowledge, and playing well with others, can never be replaced by gearscore.. Not unless you want a ton of crappy players in your group.

    You want to be able to master your class and build core groups. Gearscore should be nothing more then a tool or measurement to ensure compliance of some sort.
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    Hojo Bellfire
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    "addition of a party recruitment window"-Thank god!
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    Maoilios Tavoularis
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    The kind of people that whine because you choose to enjoy the game, rather than treat it as an accounting job trying to crunch numbers, make grouping less enjoyable and I see a system like this (for most content) as a way to encourage these people and restrict group content.

    The exceptions are the elite content (HM Primals and the Binding Coil), which absolutely should be restricted to those with adequate gear for the task.

    If the (non elite content) restrictions are reasonable (and I mean general consensus reasonable, not what the vocal hardcore think is reasonable), then I could get behind such a system, provided it quiets all the whining about gear levels.
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    Player Jynx's Avatar
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    Jynx Masamune
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    God forbid people police themselves and find that they need better gear to do certain content. It's a shame SE has to force this kind of stuff on to the community instead of letting us deal with it ourselves. Then again the entire Duty Finder system takes all the community control away from the community anyways.

    Just sucks that all these features end up being detrimental to people who don't need this kind of stuff imposed on them.
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    Reika Shadowheart
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    I can see a problem arising if say you are trying to enter the content with your own party server side no matter what gear they have, but the duty finder wont let them enter. Other than that, it will aid in not getting way undergeared people for some high level content, like those people who want to do garuda with a lvl44 aetherial weapon. . . . man
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    Mishakai Katyn
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    As long as I can bypass it when queuing with full groups, I don't care, DF is for people who solo MMOs and don't have enough friends to fill a small group.
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    Vandal Lillithson
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    It's the player base that made GS horrible in wow. They were demanding you be fully equiped with stuf you get in the raid or later ones to even step foot in them. Their current hard keyed Item level system that says "You must have this minimm average to come in' works better. Hoepfully this is like the second kind.
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