Fixing Legacy Characters Story

[Baidien]

I've sat and thought on this and all I can come up with is that this is unacceptable. We were told one thing about all legacy characters having a unique story and then something different was done and were silent on the multiple people questioning it since Beta 3. The only solution if for SE to fix this so that all 1.0 character have some sort of unique story. I don't want a reset. They can fix whatever trigger needs to be fixed so that we can finish the story as a WOL and see the past correct cut scenes from our inn rooms. If left as is I have no choice but to label them as a liar and have no reason to trust anything they say in the future.

[Laume]

You guys had to be told this? I thought this was obvious. No "united we stand" = not stopping the garlean plot to bring the moon down and them harnessing it's powers. No "to kill a raven" means nael van darnus is still alive. When the end was announced and it was announced that the end was the friggin MOON FALLING FROM ORBIT, my wife and I, with our 1 level 50 job, wrestled a team of, literally, barely level 50 geared people together and we went through the story line in a month's time to stop it from happening. We even had time for me to level blm to I can help other's with their white raven fight. I've spent hours sitting out side castrum novem (or how ever that's spell) as whm just to raise people if they failed so they can try again without running through that place again.

I'm pretty sure they did tell us at one point that certain quests needed to be done for 2.0. But even if they didn't, how was this not obvious?

[tymora]

No issues on my end thankfully. Stayed with 1.0 all the way. Only thing I missed was the White Raven's so that is not needed.

[BobbinT]

No issues on my end thankfully. Stayed with 1.0 all the way. Only thing I missed was the White Raven's so that is not needed.

hint: CS just before Garuda fight in ARR will have very close tie to White Raven event. A certain someone will fully recovered his memories and remembered what he & player did during White Raven, which he add his regret later that it doesn't prevent calamity after all.

[ArkhamNative]

You guys had to be told this?...

You misunderstand. I haven't seen anyone here ask for special scenes for what they didn't achieve in version 1. It's just that we were led to expect a special opening scene for returning v1 characters. Instead, our v1 characters return with no explanation at all. They're not returning from being teleported. They're not new characters. They're an anomaly the game conveniently ignores by tossing into the "new character, never played v1" basket.

If our characters weren't at Carteneau, they should be remembered in full. Not only because the magic only blocked what happened there, but also because our characters would have been spending the last 5 years continuing our adventures, or at least assisting those same NPCs to rebuild the Eorzea that we see today.

It would have been nice to see the game NPCs somehow acknowledge that our characters had been in v1, and even better if we could discover what happened, how we arrived in ARR without teleportation and with all our old stuff and old memories. But I wouldn't presume to put more work on the devs dealing with bigger stuff and already looking towards the future of ARR. However, I do hope that the questions can be resolved as a matter of lore, because even the best suggestions so far are still full of holes and unsupported by game lore.

Also, just to nitpick in general, as a point of story, only 8 adventurers fought the 7th umbral era quest battles. So when the NPCs say "all those adventurers at Carteneau", they don't mean just the 8 that defeated Nael, etc.

[TaranTatsuuchi]

As mentioned previously, there should have been several different flags, each triggering a certain set of 'legacy story'

1.0 character - teleportation cutscene, and name in register.
got to the scions in 1.0 - minfillia remembers you
...
Everything in 1.0 - all the legacy stuff in 2.0

That would have been better.

[SaintAjora]

<everything you said at the beginning>

That's what I'm thinking. It was reported so long ago, and even accepted as a bug. I think they intended to fix it, then something happened, so they finally decided to just tell us that it's supposed to be this way.

It said "legacy players" not "legacy players who completed up to a certain point" would get different scenes. There is no explanation for what we're supposed to be, then. We're not new. We did many various things leading up to the calamity, including taking part in battles against the empire, helping Urianger when no one else believed him, assisting Minfilia and the others, etc... There were people who knew my name and talked about how great I was. Even if we didn't get to the transmitter and whatnot, there's no reason for so many people to just forget about all of the things we DID do, and not know us at all. There's no reason our names shouldn't already be in the book, when we signed it there before.

Again, I guess it just has to be accepted now, but it seems silly to believe it was meant to be this way all along.

As mentioned previously, there should have been several different flags, each triggering a certain set of 'legacy story'

1.0 character - teleportation cutscene, and name in register.
got to the scions in 1.0 - minfillia remembers you
...
Everything in 1.0 - all the legacy stuff in 2.0

That would have been better.

See, this is a good idea. I understand that if I didn't get to that last quest, I won't understand when someone refers to it. But there's no reason for Minfilia to treat me like a total stranger when we've done so much before. Especially with the Echo...

Of course, this is probably just too much work, so we've got what we have now. :\

[Laume]

<snip>

If you didn't finish United we stand, why would people remember you? If you didn't finish White Raven's, you were one of the many on the field that didn't get teleported. Do you have your equipment still? Your job abilities? You legacy mark? Then you were in 1.0. And Yoshida said that the derplander's party is a representation of us. If you want to nitpick, you're saying that the first players ever to beat Nael only should get the new cutscene. Being remembered doesn't change the story line. You get maybe one or two things different.

And yes, they may not say that outright, but they are asking for scenes that they didn't achieve in 1.0. They're saying they should have seen the legacy scene when they didn't beat United We Stand. That's asking for special scenes they didn't achieve.

[KuroNoKaze]

If you didn't finish United we stand, why would people remember you?

Counter Question:

I was the one who was there with them when Yda and Papalymo originally came to Gridania and crashed with their airship (and later on we were attacked by wolves and a treant). I helped Urianger (when noone else would) and Milfina during 1.0. I signed Mother Miounnes guild ledger and got her linkpearl... So, why shouldn't these NPCs remember me? After all, the amnesia magic only erases the memories of the warriors of light. And if I ain't one, why should they forget? Or at least not be able to remember with a hint or two from me?

I am not asking to be recognized by NPCs I never met. But I am asking to be recognized by those I met and helped. And I am equally asking where the hell I have been in those 5 years....

[SmokeyTheSequel]

I would like an answer to this as well!!