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  1. #281
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    ArkhamNative's Avatar
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    Santori Zhonets
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    Quote Originally Posted by Imdesyda View Post
    Maybe with enough luck, or enough whining, SE will give in and let you see the few extra cutscenes and you can go back to pretending to be one of the Warriors of Light. With that I will wish you well in your endeavor.
    If digging through details of lore are too boring or too complicated, you could just bow out and not drop such comments as you leave. What was that about? Nobody is "pretending to be warriors of light". In fact that's one of the key questions being asked, because if all v1 characters aren't, the basis of the ARR story makes no sense for most v1 characters. They wouldn't have ridden in on a cart and been unknown. They would have ridden in on their Company Chocobo and been greeted as friends by the NPCs. (Maybe even a "how's the spouse and kids?" ... It *has* been 5 years, after all.) Anyway, I even posted that I don't expect SE to make changes to the game for very valid reasons. At this point it's perhaps a matter of lore and nothing else.

    As for the opening scenes and other cutscenes, they can be easily watched on countless YouTube channels. There were 2 differences in the intro scenes, neither mentioned any of the quest battles. One showed the actual teleportation, including narration that Louisoix had teleported adventurers (again seemingly not just the 4-8 he personally dealt with). The other was Mimodi pausing because she thought she recognized the adventurer in front of her. Later cutscenes also have characters going through this moment of unsureness.
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    Last edited by ArkhamNative; 09-11-2013 at 06:51 AM.

  2. #282
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    Jacien's Avatar
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    Jacien Visenad
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    United We Stand is actually the requirement for the alternate cutscenes? Weird, especially since.


    Cid literally talks about you flying with him to face Darnus when he regains his memories.


    Oh well, I guess that's one plothole some people would have to deal with.
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  3. #283
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    KylePearlsand's Avatar
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    Someone mentioned before that there was another trigger. Beating United We Stand gives you one set of 1.0 stuff and defeating Nael gives you another.
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  4. #284
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    Aleksander Whiterock
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    I think you are confusing things now. Carmate explitely said on page 18 of this thread:

    In order for the alternative opening cutscene to play, you had to have cleared the Castrum Novum quest in 1.0. If this requirement was not fulfilled before the final data save, this opening will not be viewable.
    He never said anything about more than one trigger. Those who did were us players who explained how SE could have handled the situation better than just tieing everything to one end-game quest. Or do I misunderstand you here now?

    @Carmate

    Just a question, if you read this. Do you think it would be possible to get a little writeup on how exactly this whole situation was tackled by the team and what made you decide to do it the way it is? I mean, Yoshi has explained stuff like the 90k or 1017 errors, surely he has 5 minutes to explain the reasoning behind the decisions made for legacy people and their version of the story, no?
    (Throughout the thread, people have posted things that don't make much sense in the story as it is for 1.0 chars who maybe got relatively far in 1.0 but did not do the Darnus quest that acts as trigger. Especially the first 20 levels in ARR and the NPCs you meet during this time are prime examples. Why did the team decide against multiple triggers that activate specific parts of the story instead of 1 trigger masterswitching everything?)
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    Last edited by KuroNoKaze; 09-12-2013 at 06:50 AM.

  5. #285
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    ErnestoGiovanni's Avatar
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    Ceropio Malvae
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    I actually deleted and remade my character. I made my own story, this character, of the same name, is actually his son. After all that happened in 1.0 and the 5 years after the death of his father Jr. sets out to make a name for his family. Due to the loss of his father and not having recovered the body leading to everyone forgetting his deeds, he plans on rebuilding and eventually reminding everyone of the name: Ernesto Giovanni.

    Kinda couldn't stand that the original Ernesto Giovanni was just another nobody. So I made them look similar but took them in different paths in disciplines to help remind me they are different people. The only other Legacy character I have is only level 7, I couldn't stand the camera angle for Lalafell, so he sits there... waiting.
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  6. #286
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    While I admire people like Ernesto's ability to make lemonade, we shouldn't have to go to such lengths just to enjoy the game. A fair portion of us play video games (whether online or not) to have a story told to us. If the listener (or in our cases, the player) has to perform feats of mental acrobatics and/or ritual character suicide just so that the story will make sense then the storyteller (SE) is derelict in their duty, and for them to expect us to either do so or lump it doesn't seem fair at all.

    Yoshi-P and the rest of the team have done a phenomenal job helping XIV rise from the ashes, but until our characters' five missing years are accounted for I, and many others, won't be able to consider this bird fully fledged.
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  7. #287
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    It would really make me happy if Square Enix went above and beyond to alleviate this problem instead of the "too bad" type of response they've given so far. It doesn't seem likely, but I wanna remain hopeful.
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  8. #288
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    Well, Tokyo Game Show is coming up, and they are working hard on Patch 2.1 as well, so I doubt there is much time for anybody of the team (remember, Carmate & co. are just Community Reps, not part of the Dev Team or inner circle) to pay attention to the questions of some more-or-less unimportant 1.0 players (slackers who couldn't even beat the final mission at that!)...

    (Note: if you find grains of cynism, irony, sarcasm or such in this post... you may well be right.)
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    Run, wolf warrior, to realms eternal....

  9. #289
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    I'm wondering if we should ask about how this decision came to be and why no one seemed to know about it before the post in this thread in the questions for the live letter thread...
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  10. #290
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    Wouldn't do any good, Taran, as they are only looking for questions regarding Housing, the PvP area and the 2 endgame raids (as far as I have understood it, so if I am wrong on this, please correct me).

    Besides, could you fathom Yoshi-sama to publically explain such a thing in a live letter recorded at the Tokyo Game Show?
    I sure can not. But yes, it would be nice indeed to have the man himself answer this. ^_^"
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    Run, wolf warrior, to realms eternal....

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