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    HurtigeKarl's Avatar
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    Karl Hurtig
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deusteele View Post
    The problem is these 3. You don't get enough stuff to sell to cover repairs, and that prevents the last. While a single person might get enough to cover their personal costs, the other 3 in party don't. This leads to a indefinite drain on the server as a whole.
    Question: if a person plays perfectly (as in never ever dies), doesn't use teleport services, doesn't use the market board and does all their daily leves and only plays 3 hours per day, will he go minus?
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    Reyka Skyyguarde
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    Quote Originally Posted by HurtigeKarl View Post
    Question: if a person plays perfectly (as in never ever dies), doesn't use teleport services, doesn't use the market board and does all their daily leves and only plays 3 hours per day, will he go minus?
    From my understanding and personal experience: Dying is actually less of a drain on your gear than staying alive to kill hordes of enemies. That said, if you were to only do your daily leves, not die, and not teleport, then you'd net a gain, probably a substantial one over time.
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    Etoile Kallera
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    Mateus
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    Quote Originally Posted by HurtigeKarl View Post
    Question: if a person plays perfectly (as in never ever dies), doesn't use teleport services, doesn't use the market board and does all their daily leves and only plays 3 hours per day, will he go minus?
    He won't be able to do much else..."Ya Gotta Spend Money to Make Money!" :P.

    That doesn't even go into the fact that new players also don't have the luxury of killing their way to their own shards and crystals. The difficult thing is that the high level market won't last forever, and many will probably skip with by just buying the dark light from speed runs.

    I'm concerned as to what end this will go, for career crafter and fighter alike.

    Just thought of something, doesn't dark matter also come from GC seals? It might be worth it to invest in those, since seal are a lot more common.
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    Last edited by Kallera; 09-08-2013 at 02:55 AM.

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    echogame's Avatar
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    Chai Latte
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    Hyperion
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    Quote Originally Posted by HurtigeKarl View Post
    Question: if a person plays perfectly (as in never ever dies), doesn't use teleport services, doesn't use the market board and does all their daily leves and only plays 3 hours per day, will he go minus?
    Yes, because just fighting monsters will cause damage to your gear. 3 hours of dungeon runs will probably cause me to fix my gear at least one full time, maybe even twice.

    Quote Originally Posted by Talyn View Post
    Are you familiar with EvE? Very complex, robust, and player-driven economy. Many similarities. At the core it's a working relationship between gatherers/crafters and war-fighters. Both lean on each other. That's what I hope SE is trying to achieve here.
    Does EVE have constant gil sinks like gil repairs? Because that single handedly THE biggest gil sink for me. I can't fix it myself without spending gil (must buy dark matter b/c NOTHING drops them). There's literally no way for me to save money when it comes to the repair gil sink. In 1.0 and beta, I could at least farm up dark matter with dungeon runs or DoL.

    Does EVE have the ability for you to sell items you find (like our DoL) to NPCs for a profit? Because the items we find on DoL give us crap prices from NPCs.
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    Last edited by echogame; 09-08-2013 at 02:55 AM.

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    Player ilJumperMT's Avatar
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    Skadi Frostborn
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    Moogle
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by HurtigeKarl View Post
    Question: if a person plays perfectly (as in never ever dies), doesn't use teleport services, doesn't use the market board and does all their daily leves and only plays 3 hours per day, will he go minus?

    Yes he goes in minus.

    I did not pick gil from retainers. I did Amdapor keep farming without dieing (dps) and done from leves quests (400g each)

    Still went in minus.
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