We need more ways to make gold in this game.

[AzuraSin]

"He disagrees with me so he's a troll." Great defense. I feel like I've regressed somehow. My point still stands that just because you haven't found a way (and probably in most cases haven't actually tried) that doesn't mean there isn't a way.

It's pretty clear you guys just want a system solution to this "problem," and at that point what's the purpose of having gil at all? You want money handed to you without putting in any effort to make it. If that's the case, why not make everything free and never have to worry about anything other than running dungeons and teh lootz.

[Moods]

"He disagrees with me so he's a troll." Great defense. I feel like I've regressed somehow. My point still stands that just because you haven't found a way (and probably in most cases haven't actually tried) that doesn't mean there isn't a way.

It's pretty clear you guys just want a system solution to this "problem," and at that point what's the purpose of having gil at all? You want money handed to you without putting in any effort to make it. If that's the case, why not make everything free and never have to worry about anything other than running dungeons and teh lootz.

And once again you just show how little you understand of the actual issue, no one says they want it handed to them, people are saying they want actual ways of making gil instead of just playing the Auction house.

Leves, Dungeons, Guildhests, Quests, Raids, Logs, none of this will provide you with a surplus compared to running dungeons, is your idea that we stop running dungeons? Seems clever.

[AzuraSin]

And once again you just show how little you understand of the actual issue, no one says they want it handed to them, people are saying they want actual ways of making gil instead of just playing the Auction house.

Leves, Dungeons, Guildhests, Quests, Raids, Logs, none of this will provide you with a surplus compared to running dungeons, is your idea that we stop running dungeons? Seems clever.

And I'm saying they need to find ways. If no one's asking SE for a handout, so be it, but that seems to be part of the sentiment of the thread.

And I never mentioned the AH as a way to make money, since I do understand that it is a gil sink.

Also,

Could you contribute less to the thread? Seriously how about you stop your "I know better than the rest of you" attitude and get in the game and come up with actual solutions ... get over yourself.

Pot -> Kettle

[Moods]

And I'm saying they need to find ways. If no one's asking SE for a handout, so be it, but that seems to be part of the sentiment of the thread.

And I never mentioned the AH as a way to make money, since I do understand that it is a gil sink.

Do tell what more there is than the ways I already mentioned? I would like to know where this magic content that pays out enough gil to keep up with repairs is (there is none).

[LordMacabre]

Do tell what more there is than the ways I already mentioned? I would like to know where this magic content that pays out enough gil to keep up with repairs is (there is none).

The others are right, that's a troll. "find ways". How? "find them". Do you have an example? "Ways". Like what? "Stop asking for a hand out".

[Hachiko]

And I'm saying they need to find ways. If no one's asking SE for a handout, so be it, but that seems to be part of the sentiment of the thread.

There are a finite number of things to do in this game:

Guildleves (500ish per Battle leve/+4 bonus, dunno max on crafting leve, 6 per 12 hours max)
Guildhests (500ish for fast completion and no one messing up or dying)
Dungeons (varies based on Tin/Bronze pieces but usually not more than 400 per person, and an additional bonus if it's someone's first run)
Quests (500 + Allagan Pieces, finite limited in number of quests)
FATE grinding (60-100 gil per fate)
Grinding / Vendoring (1-5 gil per item vendored).

I can't think of any other ways to generate gil in the economy. Can you? I think that list covers it.

To me it looks like the best / fastest way is to do Guildhests, as you aren't capped on them like you are levequests. People seem to have overlooked them, but they are probably the way to go right now if you want to do repairs.

On the other hand grinding out 15 or so guildhests just so you can afford to repair your gear is a LITTLE ridiculous.

They should honestly reduce the price of Grade 5 Dark Matter so leveling crafting professions have more tangible benefits than just a 150gil discount on repairs when your gear is fully broken.

[AzuraSin]

I can't think of any other ways to generate gil in the economy. Can you? I think that list covers it.

That's a good list and I'm not arguing that those are the obvious ways to make gil. I'm merely asserting there are other ways (or modifications to those ways) that may take more effort and time but do provide gil. It could be as simple as finding some items are easily gather-able (or farm-able) and craft-able into something worth vendoring to an NPC. All I've tried to say here is that there have to be things people aren't thinking of/trying. Giving up and saying the game doesn't hand you enough money to cover your repair costs is not a solution.

My original comment on this thread was that the system is working as intended, and I still believe that to be the case. Gil is rare compared to what it was in v1, and for people who never played v1 gil is just plain rare. That means stop teleporting so much, that means stop paying out the ear for items at the AH and make it yourself, etc. (in short, stop spending unnecessarily) and find a way to make gil that doesn't make you want to stab your face off (e.g. NPCing gathered items for 1g each).

The defensiveness in this thread is astounding.