We need more ways to make gold in this game.

[ilJumperMT]

Wiping on titan hm having to pay 10k repairs is fun! woot woot!

[Thotor]

Almost 50 pages and still no reaction from SE.

[Airas]

Let's do this guys....
A Crying Orchestra! Let's unite and cry our hearts out... Maybe SE/Yoshi will pity us and make it so GIL will pour down from the heavens!

[Orsnoire]

Let's do this guys....
A Crying Orchestra! Let's unite and cry our hearts out... Maybe SE/Yoshi will pity us and make it so GIL will pour down from the heavens!

Very few people are demanding easy or free money.

But a positive gil flow from doing normal activities is a must or the economy WILL crash.

[Hammerfist]

Why not making enemies in dungeons drop much more gil? Other than covering repair costs, it would also make dungeons worth doing for more than just speed runs, as the more enemies you kill the more gil you get.

[HealBus]

This thread shows me how fail education is in regards to teaching people basic reading comprehension. Also the amount of economic illiteracy displayed also makes me fear for the future.

EDIT: A lot of MMO teams have economists on them, I remember reading somewhere that FFXIV doesn't.

[Swordphobic]

There are a few positive gil sources I can identify:
1) Tradecraft leves: Specially when you are overleveled and are sure to make an HQ item grants some very easy gil (I suspect gil farmers could be using these)
2) Lower level dungeon running: That's right, queue up to help a noob and you can get some fast allagan pieces for almost no repair cost.
3) Fate farming in crafted whites: Great for personal economy (spiritbond) and generates more money than you spend.

And that's it, those look like the few sustained gil sources

[Airas]

There are a few positive gil sources I can identify:
1) Tradecraft leves: Specially when you are overleveled and are sure to make an HQ item grants some very easy gil (I suspect gil farmers could be using these)
2) Lower level dungeon running: That's right, queue up to help a noob and you can get some fast allagan pieces for almost no repair cost.
3) Fate farming in crafted whites: Great for personal economy (spiritbond) and generates more money than you spend.

And that's it, those look like the few sustained gil sources

But I would have to work "hard" for those! I want my GIL NOW!

[Lockisezmode]

snipped for submission

So you have no idea what you are talking about. Tradeleves if you are overleveled for them make you very little if anything at all once you tak into account the gil/time you have to spend to acquire the items, the repair costs for making the items and the time required to farm that enough to become profitable. Same the same exact problem exists with your second and third examples as well. You obviously have no idea about endgame if you think any of what you are stating is positive gil flow. I would encourage you to research some more before you make such massively ignorant statements but that probably won't happen.

[Swordphobic]

Crap from the fingers.

Why don't you try doing them yourself, a couple of mats you can easily farm, 6~ untill the end product and easy 2k+ gil netgain (lvl 30~ DoH). Someone with a scripted bot can make quite a bit of gil from the air by simple automation of a production chain.