HM Titan Quicksand delay

[Defiant]

Like most AoEs in this game, damage is triggered based on where your character is standing when the cast bar/ability triggers (Not when the visual que trggers). Take the last boss in keep for instance - you can run out and reengage the boss the moment the large AoE cast bar ends and be perfectly fine. Even though the graphics for the ability are still active, the character hit/miss check has already triggered. Best solution on Titan, move faster.

Not trying to be rude here, but there is plenty of time to get out of the AoEs, the fight is VERY well tuned. Just because people decide to play on non-local server doesn't mean content should be nerfed for the rest of us.

[Valsh]

Just because people decide to play on non-local server doesn't mean content should be nerfed for the rest of us.

"decide" to play on "non-local" server. What an incredibly stupid thing to say. All NA & EU servers are hosted in Canada, there is no choice involved.

I take it Behemoth is an NA server and your ping to Canada is perfectly fine? Also, at what point in this thread did anyone mention nerfing content?

[Faction]

Like most AoEs in this game, damage is triggered based on where your character is standing when the cast bar/ability triggers (Not when the visual que trggers). Take the last boss in keep for instance - you can run out and reengage the boss the moment the large AoE cast bar ends and be perfectly fine. Even though the graphics for the ability are still active, the character hit/miss check has already triggered. Best solution on Titan, move faster.

Not trying to be rude here, but there is plenty of time to get out of the AoEs, the fight is VERY well tuned. Just because people decide to play on non-local server doesn't mean content should be nerfed for the rest of us.

You're totally wrong. You can easily still get hit if the castbar isn't finished and you're out of the indicator. This happens even with 10 ping sometimes.

Not trying to be rude here, but you're not as good as you think you are. The game is flawed. The unresponsive combat in combination with aoe issues makes it feel like a game from 1995. You're also playing a Gladiator, a class that does not have to worry about avoiding any mechanic on any fight. Anything you say is useless.

[Meikka]

You're totally wrong. You can easily still get hit if the castbar isn't finished and you're out of the indicator. This happens even with 10 ping sometimes.

Not trying to be rude here, but you're not as good as you think you are. The game is flawed. The unresponsive combat in combination with aoe issues makes it feel like a game from 1995. You're also playing a Gladiator, a class that does not have to worry about avoiding any mechanic on any fight. Anything you say is useless.

And so to backup your argument of bad connectivity speed to a server, you judge a players usefulness and a whole class.
TO be rude, you are bad if you cannot understand what Defiant is telling you. Unless you are lagging pretty badly, you can avoid these AoEs....if you can't, well, then you are pretty bad.
Go spam Overpower now.

[Faction]

And so to backup your argument of bad connectivity speed to a server, you judge a players usefulness and a whole class.
TO be rude, you are bad if you cannot understand what Defiant is telling you. Unless you are lagging pretty badly, you can avoid these AoEs....if you can't, well, then you are pretty bad.
Go spam Overpower now.

Main tanks don't have to dodge anything in most of the content. It's just a fact. Sorry if this gets your collective panties in a bunch. It's pretty easy to say "lol the game is fine" when your role doesn't have to worry about any of the problems anyone else is having. I love the personal offense you took though, clearly you think that you're hot shit at this 2.5 second GCD MMORPG, which apparently takes lots of skill.

"Bad connectivity speed to a server" - what? Both you and him clearly don't understand the problem in the slightest. Which again is unsurprising considering it's irrelevant to you. It's to do with how utterly awful, unresponsive and just generally laggy battles in this game are, not anyones "bad connection."

[MBTL90]

Main tanks don't have to dodge anything in most of the content. It's just a fact. Sorry if this gets your collective panties in a bunch. It's pretty easy to say "lol the game is fine" when your role doesn't have to worry about any of the problems anyone else is having.

Uhh, what? Do you realize how many mobs in this game have either a breath attack or a centered aoe that decent tanks should be dodging? Even on HM Ifrit, tanks should be moving to dodge the outside plumes. While there aren't as many one shot abilities as say HM Titan, a tank has plenty of opportunites to test whether they can move out of aoe attacks in this game.

For what it's worth, I've had no instances where I'm out of an aoe, but still get hit by it. I'm not saying that this isn't a real issue for people, but for me, if I get hit by an aoe, it's because I didn't react fast enough. I'm playing on an NA server - Faerie - and am located in the midwest - Cleveland, Ohio.

[TirionCrey]

Uhh, what? Do you realize how many mobs in this game have either a breath attack or a centered aoe that decent tanks should be dodging? Even on HM Ifrit, tanks should be moving to dodge the outside plumes. While there aren't as many one shot abilities as say HM Titan, a tank has plenty of opportunites to test whether they can move out of aoe attacks in this game.

For what it's worth, I've had no instances where I'm out of an aoe, but still get hit by it. I'm not saying that this isn't a real issue for people, but for me, if I get hit by an aoe, it's because I didn't react fast enough. I'm playing on an NA server - Faerie - and am located in the midwest - Cleveland, Ohio.

You are both right to a point. Tanks do have content where they should dodge attacks. But on Primals at least, it's pretty limited. HM Ifrit is Outside Plumes only pretty much. On Garuda it's Slipstream and on Titan there is nothing, so I do get the point

[TheRac25]

Like most AoEs in this game, damage is triggered based on where your character is standing when the cast bar/ability triggers (Not when the visual que trggers). Take the last boss in keep for instance - you can run out and reengage the boss the moment the large AoE cast bar ends and be perfectly fine. Even though the graphics for the ability are still active, the character hit/miss check has already triggered. Best solution on Titan, move faster.

Not trying to be rude here, but there is plenty of time to get out of the AoEs, the fight is VERY well tuned. Just because people decide to play on non-local server doesn't mean content should be nerfed for the rest of us.

although you are right there is enough time to get out of danger zones, your understanding of the lag ridden positioning system is quite faulty

[gigi_frana]

Just because people decide to play on non-local server doesn't mean content should be nerfed for the rest of us.

ahahaha good one.

[Joypad]

Not trying to be rude here, but there is plenty of time to get out of the AoEs, the fight is VERY well tuned. Just because people decide to play on non-local server doesn't mean content should be nerfed for the rest of us.

You want Europe to move in Canada or something? That's where the European servers are located and people were under the assumption that the developers will take the deliberate decision not to have European servers in Europe into consideration.

Next thing you'll tell me is that all European countries have the same internet speeds available to make me fall on the floor laughing my ass off.