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[BlueMage]

"Westerners should be glad they're allowed to play. Your greed and rudeness for wanting to play the game is shameful. I'm ashamed to be a westerner. I'm a heroic white knight defending SE from these people with unreasonable expectations like wanting to play the game. This game would be better if nobody played. Never be unhappy about anything ever and don't you ever dare voice an opinion or concern. You're worse than terrorism and genocide put together for criticizing something."

There, I just summarized what will likely be the next 10 pages of replies. /thread

[Vanidin]

Cause every big MMO launch ever went super smooth. A bad launch makes a bad game eh? I remember my WoW server being down for days at a time when the game first came out... That game failed horribly apparently...

A couple things about that though... Blizzard communicated with the player base about how they were going to fix it... then they did it.
The MMO market is a completely different dynamic today than it was when WoW launched, back then you had a few choices at most but today you have more choices than you can count. All those choices make it much easier for people to just give up on a game... so in a lot of eyes yes a bad launch can give an impression of a bad game.

[Mychael]

I dont understand what is so hard to comprehend here, Reboot the servers get rid of all the bots and people idling and let other people in. is it really THAT hard to understand?

From what I've seen, everyone trying to log back in would probably crash the lobby server.

[Lazus]

WoW was what? almost 10 years ago? So learning from past mistakes should be thrown out the window correct?

The problem with this statement is that it is still is a common occurrence in today MMO, despite it happening 10 years ago. So the act of thinking it still shouldn't be happening today vs. it does still happen today doesn't match up.

[AmaiHanakaze]

I dont understand what is so hard to comprehend here, Reboot the servers get rid of all the bots and people idling and let other people in. is it really THAT hard to understand?

Because rebooting is totally fair to the people that are actually logged in, and playing, that end up getting 1017'd when the servers come back up and everyone ultimately tries to force their way into the servers.

[Ivy_Blackrose]

its fair when you consider probably 50% of the players currently logged in have been logged in for over 24 hours and havent moved.....

[ChanceSkeleton]

Do people not understand the economics of MMO launches? Long story short, why spend x dollars just to cover the hardware needed for the initial spike of players when after 1 month, the numbers will settle into their long term bandwidth requirements? If they were to buy up the hardware required to have EVERYONE logged in at once, that server space and expense will be wasted once people quit. Yes, this blows balls. This is one of the many problems with this launch. Yes, it will drive away players, unfortunately. But it is a necessary evil.

Now, not having a functioning queue... LOL, there's no excusing that.

[Mychael]

Do people not understand the economics of MMO launches? Long story short, why spend x dollars just to cover the hardware needed for the initial spike of players when after 1 month, the numbers will settle into their long term bandwidth requirements? If they were to buy up the hardware required to have EVERYONE logged in at once, that server space and expense will be wasted once people quit. Yes, this blows balls. This is one of the many problems with this launch. Yes, it will drive away players, unfortunately. But it is a necessary evil.

Now, not having a functioning queue... LOL, there's no excusing that.

Nice post, but, uh...who said anything about buying hardware?

[AmaiHanakaze]

its fair when you consider probably 50% of the players currently logged in have been logged in for over 24 hours and havent moved.....

Idle kicking is fair, though in the long run it's just a band-aid for the real issue. Rebooting just screws everybody. Not fair at all.

[Furor]

The problem with this statement is that it is still is a common occurrence in today MMO, despite it happening 10 years ago. So the act of thinking it still shouldn't be happening today vs. it does still happen today doesn't match up.

There's no problem with his statement.

The only reason humans are where we're at now in terms of civilization is the ability to learn from past mistakes. To carry knowledge forward. Without that, we'd be nothing more than semi-hairless apes.

It's disgusting seeing people make excuses for this company. They knew what to expect. They knew the kind of demand they'd have. They were aware of pre-order sales. To then go into this completely unprepared for a worst case scenario, to not have additional servers available to handle higher-than-expected loads, to not have proper procedures already laid out in the event that some kind of critical error did occur.. that's just hubris, and quite possibly, greed.