We need an AH

[Physic]

teleports are more convienent than chocobos, but people still want choco, and airships and whatnot, AH is more convenient, but it is not necessarily a better game mechanic.
The concept of market wards can be built upon, you can add shops, different locales, methods of advertisement, selling areas, mail systems to reach players. You can theoretically do quests to expand your retainers abilities, which adds content.

But AH is basically AH, it doesnt really have much growth potential, and doesnt add much to the game, definitely not immersion, or shop building.

If they do add an AH it should have a decent tax anyhow, and if it does, most people would rather do bazzar system, most people would not want to pay an extra 20k for a 200k purchase versus 40 seconds of waiting time. because most people do not make 20k in 40 seconds. The only reason people didnt use bazzars more in ffxi is because you have to search through them, and they have negated that element.

for buyers and sellers, mw is actually better. you can find items almost as fast, you can post items infinitely at no cost to your self, and the tax is cheaper. they even made it posible to model items your selling.


Far as manipulating prices in the wards, it is possible now, if you take the time, but doing the same thing on AH is faster, and easier.
We dont really need a history for items, sell it for what you think its worth, or dont sell it. If you feel satisfied selling your gold ore for 1k then do it. if you dont want to part with a gladius for under 100k dont do it.

YOU CAN DECIDE YOUR OWN VALUE OF ITEMS, you dont need some one else telling you what the item is worth, you got the item yourself, you know how hard it is to obtain, you can see how many other people are selling it, dont be a lemming

[DoubleEcho]

I have nothing to add but Tonka, I love your signature dude

[Evangela]

someone might making another version of Hitler video on Youtube, he says "whoever enjoy the current market wards system please leave!" and start outcry

[Feldt]

No we do not.

Second that, We Don't Need AH.

[Dreamer]

AH

Search for Item
Buy It
Grab it from Mailbox

That's not an auction house. That's a NPC vendor disguised as an AH.

The bottom line is that people don't want an actual auction house. They simply want a system that is as convenient as possible and needs zero thought on their part.

[RinL]

That's not an auction house. That's a NPC vendor disguised as an AH.

The bottom line is that people don't want an actual auction house. They simply want a system that is as convenient as possible and needs zero thought on their part.

Heh ^^ just replied to you on another thread!

My question for this particular statement is whats wrong with making things like this simple?

Generally when I am thinking about a suggestion for a game, be it this one or wow or anything like that, I try to ask myself 'would this harm the players or the game in any way?'. I just cant see how making things easier/faster by introducing an Auction House would hurt the player or the game.

Why have players zone in and out and search multiple times for items when they can do it from one main menu and a mailbox / moghouse? Would making this process faster / easier hurt your gameplay in any way? Would it hurt the game in any way?

I understand people will have their own points of view, im just having a hard time seeing why this system would cause any trouble. Enlighten me!

[TessaJalloh]

I personally like to search out the item i'm after, and then go shopping around. Hell, the npc i get the item from itself will have plenty of other stuff i wasn't searching for too, sometimes i buy more than i'd intended.

The idea behind this is infact that people will do this, impulse purchases and such, and once done, they may even browse other retainers, with an AH, you just don't tend to impulse buy, not unless you see something you wanted anyway near what you were searching for.

[Mack]

not unless you see something you wanted anyway near what you were searching for.

So same thing as retainers, as you just explained them?

[RinL]

So same thing as retainers, as you just explained them?

You are kind of bending his words, and I dont think its fair to use that as an argument for or against market wards or auction houses in this case.

The player you quoted said the following

I personally like to search out the item i'm after, and then go shopping around. Hell, the npc i get the item from itself will have plenty of other stuff i wasn't searching for too, sometimes i buy more than i'd intended.

The idea behind this is infact that people will do this, impulse purchases and such, and once done, they may even browse other retainers, with an AH, you just don't tend to impulse buy, not unless you see something you wanted anyway near what you were searching for.

The main part of his post seemed to be talking about impulse buying, and im not quite sure how that fits in to this conversation (no offense TessaJalloh!!). I think he/she was just explaining how impulse buying might fit in with this situation on either side of the AH / Ward line.

[Mack]

Yet Yoshida already explained poll results are only a consideration and not deciding factor, AH want was actually far less of a want than other important things.

Of course it was considering you had battle system and content above it. There was and is a lot screwed up in this game, but if you run the poll again after they fix the battle system and add content, assuming they were implemented well, AH would take precedence over everything. Doesn't matter anyway, I'm personally done arguing in favor for or against an AH or MW, Its probably coming anyway or a really good fix for the MW...either way would work but the MW are flawed in their current state.