We need an AH

[Mack]

not unless you see something you wanted anyway near what you were searching for.

So same thing as retainers, as you just explained them?

[RinL]

So same thing as retainers, as you just explained them?

You are kind of bending his words, and I dont think its fair to use that as an argument for or against market wards or auction houses in this case.

The player you quoted said the following

I personally like to search out the item i'm after, and then go shopping around. Hell, the npc i get the item from itself will have plenty of other stuff i wasn't searching for too, sometimes i buy more than i'd intended.

The idea behind this is infact that people will do this, impulse purchases and such, and once done, they may even browse other retainers, with an AH, you just don't tend to impulse buy, not unless you see something you wanted anyway near what you were searching for.

The main part of his post seemed to be talking about impulse buying, and im not quite sure how that fits in to this conversation (no offense TessaJalloh!!). I think he/she was just explaining how impulse buying might fit in with this situation on either side of the AH / Ward line.

[Mack]

You are kind of bending his words, and I dont think its fair to use that as an argument for or against market wards or auction houses in this case.

The player you quoted said the following



The main part of his post seemed to be talking about impulse buying, and im not quite sure how that fits in to this conversation (no offense TessaJalloh!!). I think he/she was just explaining how impulse buying might fit in with this situation on either side of the AH / Ward line.

I didn't bend anything. He said that with the MW there is the benefit of impulse buying, where you open up a retainer and see other stuff you might wish to buy. Then he said this is only possible with an AH with items that are nearby what you're searching for....well, this is also true for the MW isn't it? in the case I stroll off and start clicking on other retainers so i can shop on "impulse" it'd be the same as me flipping through the AH. This is hardly a benefit.

[RinL]

I didn't bend anything. He said that with the MW there is the benefit of impulse buying, where you open up a retainer and see other stuff you might wish to buy. Then he said this is only possible with an AH with items that are nearby what you're searching for....well, this is also true for the MW isn't it? in the case I stroll off and start clicking on other retainers so i can shop on "impulse" it'd be the same as me flipping through the AH. This is hardly a benefit.

Again, I dont think his argument really benefits either market wards or auction houses though. He is simply stating his opinion on buying things on impulse from what I can see.

I only mentioned the bending of words since you took that and used it to defend market wards and retainers. Sorry if I misunderstood, but if I did not then ill stand by what I said

His original reply seemed to be a random thought on how these two systems affect impulse buys, not defending one system one way or another.

[TessaJalloh]

So same thing as retainers, as you just explained them?

^^ not quite, due to how an auction list works, if you're looking for something specific, you'll ignore the rest, and maybe only notice something on the same page as what you were after in the first place.

However, with the retainer system, something that may not alphabetically lay with another item in an auction list can be discovered accidently on the retainer when you get to them.

It makes crafting all items more rewarding than just the flavour of the month equipment.

[sasukeuchiha]

^^ not quite, due to how an auction list works, if you're looking for something specific, you'll ignore the rest, and maybe only notice something on the same page as what you were after in the first place.

However, with the retainer system, something that may not alphabetically lay with another item in an auction list can be discovered accidently on the retainer when you get to them.

It makes crafting all items more rewarding than just the flavour of the month equipment.

I myself could care less i want to by the 1 item i want not see another item i want and be look oo i want that too. I have enough problems with inventory space do to having to carry a billion crafting items because of gear repairs i don't need another item i may never use.

[TessaJalloh]

I myself could care less i want to by the 1 item i want not see another item i want and be look oo i want that too. I have enough problems with inventory space do to having to carry a billion crafting items because of gear repairs i don't need another item i may never use.

At risk of sounding rude, if you don't have a use for whatever else you might discover. just don't buy it? Bit of a no brainer really.

[RinL]

I myself could care less i want to by the 1 item i want not see another item i want and be look oo i want that too. I have enough problems with inventory space do to having to carry a billion crafting items because of gear repairs i don't need another item i may never use.

This is another reason I wouldnt mind seeing changes made to the current ward system.

If you went ahead and put in the changes I have posted about you would have to have some sort of delivery system, or at least I would hope you would.

That would mean a mail system which would be the easy way out, or a mog house which would the be the right way to handle things Having items delivered from the auction house / improved market wards / whatever you want to call it to your mog home would give the Dev teams a reason to put in housing, and would also give us a bit more storage.

If we could purchase / craft trunks and closets for our houses that could hold items like an inventory that would help with storage problems many people have come across, and that would just be a side effect of improving our trade system.

[Cairdeas]

^^ not quite, due to how an auction list works, if you're looking for something specific, you'll ignore the rest, and maybe only notice something on the same page as what you were after in the first place.

However, with the retainer system, something that may not alphabetically lay with another item in an auction list can be discovered accidently on the retainer when you get to them.

It makes crafting all items more rewarding than just the flavour of the month equipment.

Or selling stuff in Sets.

I've done it more then once where I found a retainer selling the body armor I wanted and bought the boots, and gloves to match as well from them without ever returning to the search.