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    Quote Originally Posted by Peregrine View Post
    I'm not going to level a generic-ass fencer to 50 and glad to 50 to play red mage, and having the ability to level "template" jobs to 50 alongside FF archetype jobs screams imbalance and painfully role-less jobs and redundancy.

    I just don't see this generic old path fitting with the new one very well unless Monk isn't even a job you level up on.

    They're going to have a hard enough time finding real purpose to these old generic jobs once Classics show up without adding 10 more generic ones. It's simply not fun levelling a template and a no-name no-lore generic MMO creation.

    Elementalist.
    Soothsayer.
    Barbarian.
    Nightstalker.

    Do not care. Final Fantasy.
    It's no fun levelling period.

    Anyway, to make a redmage, wouldn't you level Fencer and Conjuror? Gladiator and Fencer would make a melee job.

    This topic has been discussed to death anyway. Do everyone a favour and just do a search for specialisation and click on one of the multiple threads discussing how jobs and class system can work and enlighten yourself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peregrine View Post
    It's simply not fun levelling a template and a no-name no-lore generic MMO creation.
    The hell? The current classes have great lore for all of them. They are not generic in that front at all. Further, it doesn't take a miracle to make them stand out even more. Introducing classic classes is not in any shape or form 'required' to make the current classes have character.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peregrine View Post
    I hope they scrap all of those unless you build a RDM from components of gladiator plus fencer instead of levelling it. They're not FF, and they're completely generic sounding which is a major problem with this game.
    Fencer: Tactics Advance/A2.
    Gladiator: FF5, FFTA/A2, XII Revenant Wings, 4 Heroes of Light.
    Archer: Tactics, Tactics Advance/A2, XII, Revenant Wings.
    Lancer: Original localization of Dragoon.
    Arcanist: FFTA2
    Conjurer: Alternative name to FF3's Evoker, aka Summoner

    ...just to name a few.
    The names aren't quite as "not FF" as you thought, now are they? Let's get into the direct japanese translations next.
    Gladiator is really "Sword User"
    Lancer is really "Lance User"
    Archer is "Archery/Bow User"
    ...and so on and so forth. The reason that they're called what they are in English is due to the actual names being deemed too boring for Western audiences, hence the confusion surrounding the armory system and the names.
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    XI: Shadowtaru (Alexander) Manifest (Shiva) Volnaru (Asura)
    1.0: Delirium Impulse (Mysidia Gungnir)
    ARR: Dashe Herate (Sargatanas) Dashe Voln (Excalibur)

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    Gladius=sword
    Arcus=bow
    Pugus=fist
    Lance

    The translation team did a great job here.

    Now, the actual classes themselves can be made more distinct quite easily. Pugilist is a Gambler, and his abilities could be made to represent this (although now they most likely make it branch into THF + MNK). Gladiators are pretty traditional Greek Gladiators with the colosseums and whatnot. The abilities can be remade into "Zeus' Wrath", "Poseidon's Fury" and whatever. Marauders are like pirates. Again, very easy to build the class based on that theme.

    But... OMG FF FEELING
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    Lol lots of raging.
    Deal with it. Game's too generic to be loaded with ten more generic jobs. Sorry.
    Go on and rave about how much you'd love to play as qiqirn, I dunno.
    Just because it can happen doesn't mean it'd work well.
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    I'd like to see a combat scythe class..

    Quote Originally Posted by Betelgeuzah View Post
    Now, the actual classes themselves can be made more distinct quite easily. Pugilist is a Gambler, and his abilities could be made to represent this (although now they most likely make it branch into THF + MNK). Gladiators are pretty traditional Greek Gladiators with the colosseums and whatnot. The abilities can be remade into "Zeus' Wrath", "Poseidon's Fury" and whatever. Marauders are like pirates. Again, very easy to build the class based on that theme.

    But... OMG FF FEELING
    lol.. you mean roman gladiators.. Zeus and Poseidon are also not the roman names of those gods..
    They would be Jupiter and Neptune..
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    Last edited by Lenneth_Valkyrie; 04-22-2011 at 05:02 PM.

    Oh and it's "kai-neh", not "kain".. and it is feminine.. u.u

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    Hook-shot class please, or ball & chain
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    Last edited by Tezz_Xivectro; 04-22-2011 at 05:08 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lenneth_Valkyrie View Post
    I'd like to see a combat scythe class..
    Reaver. I can do this all day, come up with generic crap that the population would vote to add.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peregrine View Post
    Lol lots of raging.
    Ah yes, that's what they call 'disagreeing' these days.

    Reaver. I can do this all day, come up with generic crap that the population would vote to add.
    Hey, I can do that too! Let me try.

    Dark Knight.

    Nice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Betelgeuzah View Post
    Ah yes, that's what they call 'disagreeing' these days.



    Hey, I can do that too! Let me try.

    Dark Knight.

    Nice.
    Fail. Kiddos who figured marauder and pugilist offered fresh and new jobs for Final Fantasy are what got us into this generic mess. Gladiator has no purpose in a Final Fantasy. Pugilist is not wanted.
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