Other 'planned/leaked' classes.

[Peregrine]

I'm not going to level a generic-ass fencer to 50 and glad to 50 to play red mage, and having the ability to level "template" jobs to 50 alongside FF archetype jobs screams imbalance and painfully role-less jobs and redundancy.

I just don't see this generic old path fitting with the new one very well unless Monk isn't even a job you level up on.

They're going to have a hard enough time finding real purpose to these old generic jobs once Classics show up without adding 10 more generic ones. It's simply not fun levelling a template and a no-name no-lore generic MMO creation.

Elementalist.
Soothsayer.
Barbarian.
Nightstalker.

Do not care. Final Fantasy.

[SydeBeheln]

I'm not going to level a generic-ass fencer to 50 and glad to 50 to play red mage, and having the ability to level "template" jobs to 50 alongside FF archetype jobs screams imbalance and painfully role-less jobs and redundancy.

I just don't see this generic old path fitting with the new one very well.

I am sure no director in his right mind, would ever force a player to obtain lvl 50 in TWO jobs just to he can play something all over again.
Take a look at tactics, they require little time in different classes.

[gifthorse]

I'm not going to level a generic-ass fencer to 50 and glad to 50 to play red mage, and having the ability to level "template" jobs to 50 alongside FF archetype jobs screams imbalance and painfully role-less jobs and redundancy.

I just don't see this generic old path fitting with the new one very well unless Monk isn't even a job you level up on.

They're going to have a hard enough time finding real purpose to these old generic jobs once Classics show up without adding 10 more generic ones. It's simply not fun levelling a template and a no-name no-lore generic MMO creation.

Elementalist.
Soothsayer.
Barbarian.
Nightstalker.

Do not care. Final Fantasy.

It's no fun levelling period.

Anyway, to make a redmage, wouldn't you level Fencer and Conjuror? Gladiator and Fencer would make a melee job.

This topic has been discussed to death anyway. Do everyone a favour and just do a search for specialisation and click on one of the multiple threads discussing how jobs and class system can work and enlighten yourself.

[Betelgeuzah]

It's simply not fun levelling a template and a no-name no-lore generic MMO creation.

The hell? The current classes have great lore for all of them. They are not generic in that front at all. Further, it doesn't take a miracle to make them stand out even more. Introducing classic classes is not in any shape or form 'required' to make the current classes have character.

[SilvertearRen]

I'm not going to level a generic-ass fencer to 50 and glad to 50 to play red mage, and having the ability to level "template" jobs to 50 alongside FF archetype jobs screams imbalance and painfully role-less jobs and redundancy.

I just don't see this generic old path fitting with the new one very well unless Monk isn't even a job you level up on.

They're going to have a hard enough time finding real purpose to these old generic jobs once Classics show up without adding 10 more generic ones. It's simply not fun levelling a template and a no-name no-lore generic MMO creation.

Elementalist.
Soothsayer.
Barbarian.
Nightstalker.

Do not care. Final Fantasy.

What I thought when I read the statement in bold?

"Wah wah, wah wah, I want everything that's awesome handed to me on a silver platter. I can't be arsed to work for it all!"

...seriously, STFU if you can't handle the idea of a system where you have to reach certain prerequisites with classes before you can unlock an advanced class.

[Peregrine]

What I thought when I read the statement in bold?

"Wah wah, wah wah, I want everything that's awesome handed to me on a silver platter. I can't be arsed to work for it all!"

...seriously, STFU if you can't handle the idea of a system where you have to reach certain prerequisites with classes before you can unlock an advanced class.

No one will play that piece of **** MMO where you have to level 3 horribly boring jobs to 50 to have the abilities you need to level 1 good job to 50. That's pathetic design for low-quality player demographics.

[Cairdeas]

What I thought when I read the statement in bold?

"Wah wah, wah wah, I want everything that's awesome handed to me on a silver platter. I can't be arsed to work for it all!"

...seriously, STFU if you can't handle the idea of a system where you have to reach certain prerequisites with classes before you can unlock an advanced class.

Personally I hope they are not unlocked classes but instead just the Traditional Jobs as a Title that gives you bonuses for a using skills favorable to the Job Title. Sure unlock the Higher skilled Job Titles but the first 6 (War, Thf, Mnk, Whm, Blm, Rdm) should be unlocked as soon as you get to what ever lets you use the Job System.

[Peregrine]

Personally I hope they are not unlocked classes but instead just the Traditional Jobs as a Title that gives you bonuses for a using skills favorable to the Job Title. Sure unlock the Higher skilled Job Titles but the first 6 (War, Thf, Mnk, Whm, Blm, Rdm) should be unlocked as soon as you get to what ever lets you use the Job System.

Why do you petition for 90% of the levelling in a game to be performed on a generic "template" then demote the superior idea into the equivalent of an overlay? Monk should be the foundation on which Hand to hand meleeing is based. Not pugilist. Monk should have a main story line and huge focus in the game. Not pugilist. Monk is our character and our archetype. Not. Pugilist. Monk is Final Fantasy. Pugilist is not.

The generic classes are feral weeds that need burned, and their roots upturned. Someone brought them over because they thought they'd give a new perspective and a fresh look to Final Fantasy. That was a mistake. Now they're everywhere. They have guilds. They have families. They have stories. And it's all a generic pile of noteless garbage, so say the reviews.

Get rid of the generics. They are a problem. They should not be part of some lazy solution.
Does it suck that they went through all the trouble to build a lancer story line? Sure does. Should have known better than to ever bring that **** into a FF though. Woodwailers? Get out of here with that random drivel, replace it with the Order of the Dragoon.

Saddest part about this Final Fantasy world is that you have no real jobs that any of us care about, and adding them to that world will ultimately leave them looking like patches instead of fundamentals. As long as there are pugilists running around with stories and quests, the game's always going to look like it was based on a mistake.

And it was honestly. They should have *never* gone with this generic approach.

[Shelia]

What I thought when I read the statement in bold?

"Wah wah, wah wah, I want everything that's awesome handed to me on a silver platter. I can't be arsed to work for it all!"

...seriously, STFU if you can't handle the idea of a system where you have to reach certain prerequisites with classes before you can unlock an advanced class.

Um, no.

Pretty sure having to level jobs to 50 to get anything interesting is horrible game design (and reminiscent of WoW...). As it is I can barely bring myself to level more than one job to even 30. It's SO INCREDIBLY GRUELING AND UNFUN. Maybe if leveling wasn't slow as molasses and involved more fun activities I could put up with leveling jobs to 50... but as it is right now it's god-awful. I can't stand it at all.