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    I'm totally disappointed (honestly I'm furious!) that this kind of lore is revealed at the release of the 2.0 version of a game I played for 2 years. I always liked to role play with my characters since ffxi (more then collecting rare/ex gear I have to say) and now my character is a nonsense in role playing terms. And I wasted time studing ffxi mithra names to create a good name. Thank you for ruining my mood today and my game experience!
    Khira Nurhiyo Seeker of the sun (or maybe not).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Khira View Post
    I'm totally disappointed (honestly I'm furious!) that this kind of lore is revealed at the release of the 2.0 version of a game I played for 2 years. I always liked to role play with my characters since ffxi (more then collecting rare/ex gear I have to say) and now my character is a nonsense in role playing terms. And I wasted time studing ffxi mithra names to create a good name. Thank you for ruining my mood today and my game experience!
    Khira Nurhiyo Seeker of the sun (or maybe not).
    Look at it this way... it's better late than never.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Khira View Post
    I'm totally disappointed (honestly I'm furious!) that this kind of lore is revealed at the release of the 2.0 version of a game I played for 2 years. I always liked to role play with my characters since ffxi (more then collecting rare/ex gear I have to say) and now my character is a nonsense in role playing terms. And I wasted time studing ffxi mithra names to create a good name. Thank you for ruining my mood today and my game experience!
    Khira Nurhiyo Seeker of the sun (or maybe not).
    What do you mean, nonsense? You have the aitches, and your first name is only two syllables! A quick swap to Keeper of the Moon and you're perfectly fit in the game's lore! I don't know how much of a backstory you created, or whether it's dependent on you being a Seeker of the Sun, but maybe you can write in that you're a halfbreed that takes after the Sunseeker but is named as a Moonkeeper.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Khira View Post
    I'm totally disappointed (honestly I'm furious!) that this kind of lore is revealed at the release of the 2.0 version of a game I played for 2 years. I always liked to role play with my characters since ffxi (more then collecting rare/ex gear I have to say) and now my character is a nonsense in role playing terms. And I wasted time studing ffxi mithra names to create a good name. Thank you for ruining my mood today and my game experience!
    Khira Nurhiyo Seeker of the sun (or maybe not).
    Quote Originally Posted by Yrusama View Post
    What do you mean, nonsense? You have the aitches, and your first name is only two syllables! A quick swap to Keeper of the Moon and you're perfectly fit in the game's lore! I don't know how much of a backstory you created, or whether it's dependent on you being a Seeker of the Sun, but maybe you can write in that you're a halfbreed that takes after the Sunseeker but is named as a Moonkeeper.
    Or just put an apostrophe in to make K'hira and it could still work as a Sunseeker. Nurhiyo might be considered long for the name of the father, but maybe not unheard of. Since the apostrophes don't actually indicate a stop, the pronunciation would also be intact. If it's still a concern, what you could do is strip out the i and make it Nurhyo which using the rules for miqo'te h's would make it only two syllables and everything's good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Khira View Post
    I'm totally disappointed (honestly I'm furious!) that this kind of lore is revealed at the release of the 2.0 version of a game I played for 2 years. I always liked to role play with my characters since ffxi (more then collecting rare/ex gear I have to say) and now my character is a nonsense in role playing terms. And I wasted time studing ffxi mithra names to create a good name. Thank you for ruining my mood today and my game experience!
    Khira Nurhiyo Seeker of the sun (or maybe not).
    Haha, yeah, after reading the threads in this section I'm kind of feeling the same - but I guess that was just symbolic of the giant mess the original game launched as - there was so little lore revealed we had to make our own (and as it turns out, inaccurate) conclusions on many points of Eorzea's backstory (remember when players thought Gaius was called 'Zulvaan'? ).

    Still, I'd noticed a few things about miqo'te and elezen names when playing the original game for developing my character's backstory which turned out to be reasonably accurate actually to how the naming conventions actually are (although I got the Seekers of the Sun and Keepers of the Moon mixed up! ).

    Ah well, I'm going to keep Enki's name as is in ARR (She's a Seeker of the Sun who grew up in Ala Mhigo, lost her parents when the city fell to the Empire, fled, and ended up in Ul'dah where she was adopted by wildwood elezen parents - hence she took their surname of 'Roux' ).

    As for her first name, it's easy enough to just say that her birth name is really 'E'nkidoh' but she normally deletes the apostrophe for simplicity's sake (after all, she usually just prefers to be called 'Enki' instead of her full name anyway)

    Anyway, thanks for the info Ferne!
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    Aaaaannnd now I just had a mental image of Lahabrea walking into a store called Bodies R Us and trying on different humans.... >.<

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enkidoh View Post
    As for her first name, it's easy enough to just say that her birth name is really 'E'nkidoh' but she normally deletes the apostrophe for simplicity's sake (after all, she usually just prefers to be called 'Enki' instead of her full name anyway)
    When you think about it, a lot of these naming conventions depend on the notion that Miqo'te had a written language for centuries, when really they seem a little more nomadic than that. None of the city-states were founded by Miqo'te, so I wonder how many have settled permanently, especially the Keepers of the Moon. Sort of hard to keep writing materials around if you're moving all the time.

    Edit: To clarify, an apostrophe is something that's only seen on paper, never spoken aloud. Perhaps in the example of "Okhi'a Nbolo" they simply added the A sound to Okhi, resulting in "Okhia", but when given an alphabet to work with opted to apply the apostrophe for clarity's sake.
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    I'll save you Yoshida!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yrusama View Post
    Edit: To clarify, an apostrophe is something that's only seen on paper, never spoken aloud. Perhaps in the example of "Okhi'a Nbolo" they simply added the A sound to Okhi, resulting in "Okhia", but when given an alphabet to work with opted to apply the apostrophe for clarity's sake.
    True, but in the case of sunkitties at least, the name after the apostrophe is typically (from what I'm reading) a stand-alone name that can be pronounced as such. Not to say you couldn't have a unique/odd-sounding name, but in Enki's case "nkidoh" is a kind of obtuse thing to pronounce on its own. Forced N-consnant combinations just clash on the English-speaking tongue/ear when not broken up by syllables. _'N works in cases like "J’nangho Tyaka" from convention post (jah-nahn-go, "nahn-go" stands alone as an easily pronouncible name).

    Makes me wonder if the given names are ever (in-lore) decided upon based on how they flow with the clan denotation? I would think that would be the norm for a parent to do, but not required.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Khira View Post
    I'm totally disappointed (honestly I'm furious!) that this kind of lore is revealed at the release of the 2.0 version of a game I played for 2 years. I always liked to role play with my characters since ffxi (more then collecting rare/ex gear I have to say) and now my character is a nonsense in role playing terms. And I wasted time studing ffxi mithra names to create a good name. Thank you for ruining my mood today and my game experience!
    Khira Nurhiyo Seeker of the sun (or maybe not).
    The name is good
    K'hira Nurhiyo from the Hipparion tribe, daughter of K'nurhiyo Nunh
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
    The name is good
    K'hira Nurhiyo from the Hipparion tribe, daughter of K'nurhiyo Nunh
    But in that case the name will be Hira and anyway nurhiyo will be too long for a male cat. I could agree and change my name for racial convenctions but the only name that sound good for me is O'khira Nurhyo... but the mole tribe? Come on moles? Dodos? Eorzea lacks of aggressive fauna? Y'shtola of the jaguars, O'khira of the moles!?!?!?!?! No way!
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    Last edited by Khira; 03-14-2013 at 08:42 PM. Reason: Typo :P