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[Anonymoose]

Although, I will point out that the Gridanians speak far more of the elementals than the Twelve.

When you put it that way, I guess I should count my blessings that we got Nophica on their company recruitment poster instead of a busty elemental.

if moogles came from the same place as the Twelve, they would be familiar with their ways in a way the five races are not. As immigrants seeking peace, who not cooperate irrespective of what Nophica created their new home for?

I think this is one of the ones that won't have a tangible answer unless SE someday decides to elaborate on the nature of the gods themselves.

"Legend holds that, in a time long forgotten, mooglekind abided in the heavens as loyal servants of the gods."

"A war of deific proportions would erupt, triggered by a feud over a single goblet of wine. Growing weary of the conflict, the reigning moogle monarch, Good King Moggle Mog XII, resolved to lead his people to the realm of mortals in secret, that they might again know a life of peace."

This does seem to imply that they're of the same origin as Moggle. Though, if Moogles served the Twelve, one would assume that the Gridanian religion would assume that they were created by them, which makes them kinda like fluffy little cherubs, Judeo-Christianally speaking.

I think there's something to be said about the true nature of the connections in the way in which they can comprehend things. For instance Moogles can understand the language of the elementals and the language of man, but only certain figures of man can understand moogles, and moogles taught them to hear the elementals. Mythologically speaking, that would make sense considering the hierarchy we're told.

That's one thing that always got me: Moogles usually end up being a sort of servant species to people in Final Fantasy, as well, but in FFXIV (so far, soon to change), they don't interact with humans very much at all and seem to act with more interest towards the elementals. If they were to continue their duty to serve the Twelve, but escaped to the realm of mortals... that would be a good place to start.

But I digress.

It is interesting, though, that you started this discussion with a Jewish societal structure and the Moogles think of Moggle as the figure that led them out of a dangerous servitude to what their legend specifically refers to as the Promised Land...

[Catapult]

But I digress.

Indeed, it might be a good idea to leave that one there as there are way too many holes to stumble over and little to be gained from it.

Ferne, can I haz quests? kthxbai

[Anonymoose]

@Catapult

GamerEscape coverage of the media tour goes up today, so I'm now free to quote...

Yoshida explained the three story arcs that will make up the story for A Realm Reborn:

1. In this arc, the consciousness of the planet has formed into the Mother Crystal whom then speaks to the players. This is the storyline that will stretch throughout the entirety of the new FINAL FANTASY XIV.
2. Grand Companies vs the Garlean Empire. Yoshida noted that for this arc, an important keyword is “Warriors of Light”.
3. The Primals, which feed on the life force of the planet have grown in both strength and influence since the appearance of Bahamut.

You nailed that Mother Crystal angle from a mile away, lol. </highfive>

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[Catapult]

@Catapult

GamerEscape coverage of the media tour goes up today, so I'm now free to quote...



You nailed that Mother Crystal angle from a mile away, lol. </highfive>

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/psych

I like my hunch!

/brofist

[NoloeTazier]

@Catapult

GamerEscape coverage of the media tour goes up today, so I'm now free to quote...



You nailed that Mother Crystal angle from a mile away, lol. </highfive>

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Sweet, now we just have to consider ourselves crazy because crystals are talking to us! omg! But anyways. Obligatory: well that doesn't mean Siren still can't be our Primals. Just kidding of course. I was thinking if the Succubus are a Beast Tribe (I mean, they were shown having different 'jobs') then maybe Siren is their lady. Yeah you can tell I'm bored =[

[Anonymoose]

Obligatory: well that doesn't mean Siren still can't be our Primals. Just kidding of course.

Technically it doesn't count her out, actually. If the crystal is a life force of the planet manifest, that still leaves the door open for deities from the all-otherworlds-encompassing void, including the Twelve (which I still say are the Olympians) and the Primals (which I still say are the Titans).

Remember, the crystal is basically life energy as a whole manifest - it's aether. Primals would know the difference between aether and other primals easier than you'd tell the difference between smelling fresh cinnamon buns and just smelling your flatmate.

Ifrit didn't smell aether on us ... he smelled his own.

The door's still open...

JUST SAYIN'

[Lucke]

I'm calling it now. Our Primal is Alexander.

[Catapult]

I'm calling it now. Our Primal is Alexander.

Well that's a problem, because I've called it that Alexander is Bozja Citadel.

[Anonymoose]

Well that's a problem, because I've called it that Alexander is Bozja Citadel.

Ohhh, you know my thoughts on where Alexander is headed.

[AkiRouscelia]

Sorry for going off in a tangent here, I'm curious if Ferne or any other developers might like to share some insight on the absence of the West Shroud so far in the media. We've seen all areas minus the West Shroud in the Alpha preview video collections and it has me wondering.

Looking back at the very first FFXIV 2.0 concept art .pdf there's a piece of art for an area in the shroud that I consider to be West Shroud. Doing a bit of thinking and screen shot research we can see that the Eorzean Stratum (that large crystal object) to the west of the new Camp Tranquil as seen in the alpha preview video.



Surely there must be a West Shroud, right?