ARR and Mac

[ispano]

Oh hmm, it's my sister's birthday on VDay. I already gave her some nice Japanese Candy though.

[Altena]

Correct, the last money I gave MS was for an original MS Mouse who knows how many years ago. And no, I don't pirate Windows either.

That is fair enough. I personally am under the impression that if a product does its job well and doesn't break, then the company that created it is worth investing in. Some people have tighter conditions of course though.

I know about the iOS Terms and EULA. They certainly can't throw you in jail for jailbreaking, and I have no issue with them denying to service a jailbroken device. If you choose to Jailbreak, they can warn you however they wish, however if you still do it, they should have no control over disabling your device or whatnot. Because it's just that, your device. You understand the ramifications of doing it. At least I would hope anyone who does it understands them.

Well when agreeing to a terms of use contract, you are agreeing to all elements in that contract. If they list certain aspects with a software (as an example), followed by the repercussions of breaking those terms of use, then yes they can carry those actions out. How harsh the discipline is, is totally the company's choice, as you as a consumer accept these terms.

For example we pay money to SE every month for a game. The physical game may be on our computer, and our characters may be on an account under our name, however if violating the terms of service, they are within their rights to shut down/restrict access to the service or game.

Every company has terms and conditions in place for good reasons, and it is within their rights to act on those terms and conditions. Since Jailbreaking can lead to illegal activity such as piracy, it is totally up to the company how they would act on that. This is not only to protect the applications from being pirated, but to protect themselves from the developers that produce the applications from taking legal action on Apple.

Well that's the way I see it. Take it how you like. They aren't necessarily the devil that a lot of people seem to make them out to be.

Also, Cruel? Depends who you ask, Many years of general tech support would have been far less painful if there was no iTunes for Windows.

Haha true enough, it has been pretty garbage at the best of times, although not to kiss Apple's butt anymore then I already have, as a DJ I can say that their smart folders / playlists are extremely useful when you have thousands of tracks, and need to enter specific conditions quickly.

I also don't see our little chat as an argument, as both opinions have been pretty valid/solid views, and I have actually enjoyed this discussion - unlike some on these forums :P

Happy V-day!

[Eekiki]

This is an obligatory video to post in any heated "Mac vs. PC" debate:

http://youtu.be/jgLaMVUNCVs

[Alhanelem]

Chic and stylish is trumped by function. I wouldn't pay nearly 2x the cost just for a more stylish laptop or PC case.

[Dhalmel]

This is an obligatory video to post in any heated "Mac vs. PC" debate:

http://youtu.be/jgLaMVUNCVs

All I got was that Mac users are to stupid to use the terminal or command prompt.

*ba da tsh*

[Molly_Millions]

What programs has Apple slipped into the iTunes install?

/cough

Quicktime

/cough

I despise Quicktime. It puts a stranglehold on my media, not good when my pc is the heart of my recording studio. I'll never buy an ipod for music because I'd be forced to use iTunes/Quicktime.

[Mikita]

Chic and stylish is trumped by function. I wouldn't pay nearly 2x the cost just for a more stylish laptop or PC case.

Yes, if you feel that way then you should definitely not buy a Mac. Your money. Your choice.

Some people actually like to have stylish together with function, and are willing to pay for it. Their money. Their choice.

That's the nice thing about having choices. We can all get what we want. ^^

[Altena]

I despise Quicktime. It puts a stranglehold on my media, not good when my pc is the heart of my recording studio. I'll never buy an ipod for music because I'd be forced to use iTunes/Quicktime.

What kind of media do you record if you don't mind me asking?

[Laume]

Okay, I'm going to try to put a stop to this thread because Hippo got his answer and this is turning into a completely different topic.

Who here thinks they can solo clear dzemeal darkhold? What about with a party of only 1 job? What about a party with 1 job clearing "A Raven Nevermore"? Hamlet? Behest? Nearly impossible, right? Final Fantasy, at it's heart, has always been a game about people with different backgrounds, different approaches, different opinions, coming together to do something greater than any one of them are able to. It's about accepting the differences and strengths of each other to cover for the weakness of other's. Everyone has their own opinions, own approaches, own reasons to do what they do. The important thing is we all work together to move forward and make a better world.

The derplander's party is showing exactly that. Two different parties, from two different time frames, for that matter, all coming from different places to try to work together. That IS final fantasy. Just as there are people with different approaches to playing, people have different approaches to what they play on. Some choose DD, other's tanking, healing, support, magic, etc. I personally can't stand tanking. I feel that it's better to kill the attacker than it is to shield someone with my body. But I can't deny that it's not only a good strategy sometimes, it's REQUIRED a most of the time. What would it be like if I started shouting that everyone in my party MUST be drg? And some people not only prefer not to play drg, they can't or can't play it well. Some people are better healers or tankers or supporters. It's just the way it is.

We all have our own circumstances and our approach. Just like with our choice of computers. Some people like macs. So what? If they're able to do the same things you do on a mac that you do on a PC, what difference does it make? Or linux to mac or pc to linux. We all use what we're comfortable with. We all chose our choices. The important thing is we all work together for a common goal.

And, the truth is, if you don't agree that we should put aside our differences for something better, the core essence of Final Fantasy, you might want to reconsider the game you're playing.

[Altena]

wall of text

I got lost as soon as I got to the 2nd sentence. I daresay your intentions were genuine but sorry I can't read it :/

Most people in here have been on the view that they all have pro's and con's.. There just seem to be a lot of people in here who have an opinion about Apple even without using any of their products.

Each brand has a place in the market. It may not be your market, but doesn't mean it's "wrong" or "bad".