ARR and Mac

[ArkhamNative]

The OSX clients of WAR and SWtOR for example are Cider ports, and their OSX performance is far below their Windows performance on the exact same hardware.

Typo? There is no Mac port of SWTOR. It won't even run on Wine (Linux or Mac). (Well, a few claim to have, but it involves patching and recompiling Wine and massive workarounds and still there are issues.)

But back to ARR, Cider > Wine > no Mac port. And even a native port can introduce its own bugs and performance issues, so there's no automatic win there.

For capability, it's generally Windows >= Mac > PS3. (So many Windows computers sold only have built-in graphics, if any, and Macs at least come with some graphics, so there's a little overlap. And though less powerful, all PS3s can play ARR.) For numbers of gamers, it's PS3 > Windows > Mac.

[Millerna]

Typo? There is no Mac port of SWTOR. It won't even run on Wine (Linux or Mac). (Well, a few claim to have, but it involves patching and recompiling Wine and massive workarounds and still there are issues.)

But back to ARR, Cider > Wine > no Mac port. And even a native port can introduce its own bugs and performance issues, so there's no automatic win there.

For capability, it's generally Windows >= Mac > PS3. (So many Windows computers sold only have built-in graphics, if any, and Macs at least come with some graphics, so there's a little overlap. And though less powerful, all PS3s can play ARR.) For numbers of gamers, it's PS3 > Windows > Mac.

Think I had a brain freeze there, SWtOR shouldn't be there obviously

I've tried WoW on OSX (native client) as well as WAR on OSX (Cider port), and both had bad performance compared to running them on windows though bootcamp on the same machine. In case of WoW it was doable, in case of WAR it was so bad it became unplayable during bigger pvp battles.

So, while a Cider port is better than nothing, there will also be a LOT of whining about bad performance and that the Windows/PS3 people have an advantage over the OSX people etc.

[ispano]

It's going to actually be DX9, then DX11 sometime after launch.

[indira]

imac is just a repackaged laptop.
apple just marks up the price of anything and gives you the worst version of unix.
get a PC if you want games on it.

[Delsus]

I had a look on the apple store at iMacs £160 for an extra 8GB RAM? it's daylight robbery what is it iRAM?

[Klefth]

I had a look on the apple store at iMacs £160 for an extra 8GB RAM? it's daylight robbery what is it iRAM?

I just checked that myself. It says +$200 for the extra 8GB of RAM for the 27" iMac on my end (and six hundred dollars for 32GB of RAM - a high performance 32GB kit costs about $200). Aaaaand +$200 to go from an i5 to an i7 (the difference is $90 between the two).

[Delsus]

I just checked that myself. It says +$200 for the extra 8GB of RAM for the 27" iMac on my end (and six hundred dollars for 32GB of RAM - a high performance 32GB kit costs about $200). Aaaaand +$200 to go from an i5 to an i7 (the difference is $90 between the two).

I want to know what makes iRAM worth that much more than some of the best performing RAM around.

[Klefth]

I want to know what makes iRAM worth that much more than some of the best performing RAM around.

It must be extra shiny, which I guess would go well with all your other Apple shiniez.

[Alhanelem]

Neither you or I would ever buy a prada bag or eddie bauer SUV's.

I understand your meaning but charging $200 more for a better processor when the exact same processor costs less than half that additional cost bought elsewhere is nothing short of exploitation of people who don't understand computers. This isn't like a designer handbag vs a walmart handbag.

OSX itself is quite nice and I wouldn't even mind trying the "hackintosh" thing sometime- But I'll most likely never buy an "actual" mac.

[Laume]

I understand your meaning but charging $200 more for a better processor when the exact same processor costs less than half that additional cost bought elsewhere is nothing short of exploitation of people who don't understand computers. This isn't like a designer handbag vs a walmart handbag.

OSX itself is quite nice and I wouldn't even mind trying the "hackintosh" thing sometime- But I'll most likely never buy an "actual" mac.

Wait, so you're saying that selling prada bags isn't exploitation?