ARR and Mac

[Delsus]

Problem is they are fairly unfixable in the newer macs as most of the hardware is fixed to the logic board. The parts aren't readily available if you are actually able to remove the broken part.

As far as software is concerned, I have had farrrrrr fewer issues with Mac OS then I have with Windows. Often the fix is extremely simple after a quick google search.

That's where Linux has the best of both worlds, Linux and OSX are both based on Unix, so anything you can do on OSX you can do on any Linux distro, and you have the ability to replace hardware at will because it is installed on a PC. Mac is essentially a Linux distro made by Apple and that is why most (read most not all) people think it is the best OS.

[Altena]

That's where Linux has the best of both worlds, Linux and OSX are both based on Unix, so anything you can do on OSX you can do on any Linux distro, and you have the ability to replace hardware at will because it is installed on a PC. Mac is essentially a Linux distro made by Apple and that is why most (read most not all) people think it is the best OS.

I am not knocking Linux as I don't use it day to day, and I have heard great things about it for sure~

As far as I know though, Linux still has a lot of compatibility issues with both drivers and software, does it not? Truthfully I don't know enough about Linux to truly comment on it, and although I have heard good things about it - it does seem more like a "programmer's OS".

In saying that though, if you base your computer's build on Mac OS compatible hardware you can quad-boot Windows/Ubuntu/Linux/Mac OS if you really desperately want to.

[Delsus]

I am not knocking Linux as I don't use it day to day, and I have heard great things about it for sure~

As far as I know though, Linux still has a lot of compatibility issues with both drivers and software, does it not? Truthfully I don't know enough about Linux to truly comment on it, and although I have heard good things about it - it does seem more like a "programmer's OS".

In saying that though, if you base your computer's build on Mac OS compatible hardware you can quad-boot Windows/Ubuntu/Linux/Mac OS if you really desperately want to.

The only real driver compatibility problem I have seen is when using at least AMD/Intel hybrid graphics, on my laptop in paticular I am unable to switch between the GPUs, and the Intel GPU is used by default with no ways to change it currently, this prevents me from using hardware acceleration, and various other features. If you have a single AMD or Nvidia GPU there will be no issues with drivers, just download the propriatory drivers after your install.

On the more software side there is a lot of compatible software, more people are moving towards supporting Linux, if you take Ubuntu the software center has a lot of software to download, from Skype and Dropbox to software that does the same as the Windows or Mac equivelant.

You can also use Wine in any Linux distro, but as we all know Wine compatibility can vary a lot, but this is the same for Mac.

Also if you don't find software you want in the software center you can check the developer's website to look for compatible software, but you might have to google how to install it, a lot can be made into a shell script which requires you to change the script's permissions to allow them to run "chmod +x <filename.sh>" then just run it with "./filename.sh"

Linux getting a lot more user friendly now, and it's getting a lot more compatible with software.

[Altena]

The only real driver compatibility problem I have seen is when using at least AMD/Intel hybrid graphics, on my laptop in paticular I am unable to switch between the GPUs, and the Intel GPU is used by default with no ways to change it currently, this prevents me from using hardware acceleration, and various other features. If you have a single AMD or Nvidia GPU there will be no issues with drivers, just download the propriatory drivers after your install.

On the more software side there is a lot of compatible software, more people are moving towards supporting Linux, if you take Ubuntu the software center has a lot of software to download, from Skype and Dropbox to software that does the same as the Windows or Mac equivelant.

You can also use Wine in any Linux distro, but as we all know Wine compatibility can vary a lot, but this is the same for Mac.

Also if you don't find software you want in the software center you can check the developer's website to look for compatible software, but you might have to google how to install it, a lot can be made into a shell script which requires you to change the script's permissions to allow them to run "chmod +x <filename.sh>" then just run it with "./filename.sh"

Linux getting a lot more user friendly now, and it's getting a lot more compatible with software.

Interesting to know. They have come a long way then..

As far as software, I did a quick google and the main piece of software I use does not support Linux. - Ableton.
I also use a lot of Mac OS exclusive software that I have been using for years and can't imagine switching to a "similar but different" piece of software. Examples are-
Logic
FinalCut
Apature

So Linux truly wouldn't suit me personally, but I am sure it is perfectly fine for other people.

[Huginn]

Interesting to know. They have come a long way then..

As far as software, I did a quick google and the main piece of software I use does not support Linux. - Ableton.
I also use a lot of Mac OS exclusive software that I have been using for years and can't imagine switching to a "similar but different" piece of software. Examples are-
Logic
FinalCut
Apature

So Linux truly wouldn't suit me personally, but I am sure it is perfectly fine for other people.

Ableton may not support Linux, but Linux supports Ableton.
Ableton works FLAWLESSLY, out of the box, with no modifications in WINE http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManage...ation&iId=2113

[Pseudopsia]

That's where Linux has the best of both worlds, Linux and OSX are both based on Unix, so anything you can do on OSX you can do on any Linux distro, and you have the ability to replace hardware at will because it is installed on a PC. Mac is essentially a Linux distro made by Apple and that is why most (read most not all) people think it is the best OS.

Personally I would not buy a Mac because Apple doesn't have any hardware that comes close to the performance I'm looking for and I suggest hardcore gamers avoid them because the best graphics you can get is underpowered mobile graphics. I am impressed with the GTX 680MX option on the 27" iMac, however the price is $2200 for that system.

Mac OS X is setup to be simple; Linux and windows is not as friendly. Most mac users have no idea that it's FreeBSD working behind the scenes. I have no problem suggesting non gamers and non tech savvy people use a Mac.

[Altena]

Mac OS X is setup to be simple; Linux and windows is not as friendly. Most mac users have no idea that it's FreeBSD working in the behind the scenes. I have no problem suggesting non gamers and non tech savvy people use a Mac.

I completely agree with this. I recommended to my mum to get a MacBook Air, as it suited her needs. For a post-60 year old woman that has only ever used Windows, she absolutely loves it and it does exactly what she needs it for.

I also prefer to work in Mac OS when doing any form of multimedia as workflow is just so much better, and the applications I have available to me sh!t bricks over programs available on Windows.

[Eekiki]

At work, when I'm asked what PC a person should get, I tell them this.

Macs do what they want to do, and they do that stuff well enough. But that's all they do. If you want a Mac to do more than what it comes with out of the box, forget it. They're also extremely overpriced, difficult if not impossible to service, and slowly losing features with each new generation.

A Windows machine does everything you want it to do, and it also does a bunch of crap you don't need or want. But the hardware is often better. And they're always cheaper than Macs, come with better warranties, and are way more serviceable.

Linux will do absolutely everything, but it doesn't know how to do anything on its own. It will also run on just about any hardware.

[Delsus]

[QUOTE=Altena;958638]Interesting to know. They have come a long way then..

As far as software, I did a quick google and the main piece of software I use does not support Linux. - Ableton.
I also use a lot of Mac OS exclusive software that I have been using for years and can't imagine switching to a "similar but different" piece of software. Examples are-
Logic
FinalCut
Apature

So Linux truly wouldn't suit me personally, but I am sure it is perfectly fine for other people.[/QUOTE

As you said if you don't want to look at open source alternatives Linux may not be for you, some linux software I use is GNS3 (network simulation), Firefox, Transmission torrent client, libre office (you can use Open office if you want) Skype, VLC player, VMWare and I am trying to get various software to run in Wine, as I said earlier basically all I can't do is game because of my hybrid graphics issues, but I have Windows for that.

At work, when I'm asked what PC a person should get, I tell them this.

Macs do what they want to do, and they do that stuff well enough. But that's all they do. If you want a Mac to do more than what it comes with out of the box, forget it. They're also extremely overpriced, difficult if not impossible to service, and slowly losing features with each new generation.

A Windows machine does everything you want it to do, and it also does a bunch of crap you don't need or want. But the hardware is often better. And they're always cheaper than Macs, come with better warranties, and are way more serviceable.

Linux will do absolutely everything, but it doesn't know how to do anything on its own. It will also run on just about any hardware.

This is basically it.

[Molly_Millions]

As you said if you don't want to look at open source alternatives Linux may not be for you, some linux software I use is GNS3 (network simulation), Firefox, Transmission torrent client, libre office (you can use Open office if you want) Skype, VLC player, VMWare and I am trying to get various software to run in Wine, as I said earlier basically all I can't do is game because of my hybrid graphics issues, but I have Windows for that.

For the software Altena mentioned, there is no alternative on Linux and running such applications in WINE usually doesn't cut it.