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    So Devs...Are we going to rule with an iron fist this time around?

    By that I mean botting, rmt's, and the like...

    Thanks
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    The reason RMT wasn't huge in XIV comparatively was because XIV had a different design to it, now, however, that they're making ARR a 'standard mmo', RMT will be pretty large, much larger than they'll be able to handle.

    Botting however, they're allowing Add-ons, so they kind of told b-...end-game shells it's perfectly ok to script bots. Hopefully they'll enforce things more heavily, but as we seen with every MMO...it's inevitable to happen and it always starts with:

    "It doesn't give me an advantage on (content), just (content.)"

    And snowballs from there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elexia View Post
    The reason RMT wasn't huge in XIV comparatively was because XIV had a different design to it, now, however, that they're making ARR a 'standard mmo', RMT will be pretty large, much larger than they'll be able to handle.

    Botting however, they're allowing Add-ons, so they kind of told b-...end-game shells it's perfectly ok to script bots. Hopefully they'll enforce things more heavily, but as we seen with every MMO...it's inevitable to happen and it always starts with:

    "It doesn't give me an advantage on (content), just (content.)"

    And snowballs from there.
    Jesus Christ there is so much wrong in this post I don't even know where to start.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfie View Post
    Jesus Christ there is so much wrong in this post I don't even know where to start.
    It's ok to be in denial when you've never played more than 1 MMO in your life. We all know RMT didn't hit big in XIV till around the end of it's life span when it was a smart idea to start hoarding gil for the relaunch.

    We also know botting doesn't exist in any MMO ever. You never hear about hacks or bots existing in MMOs. It's practically unheard of.
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    Till there will be people ready to buy Gils there will be RMT in MMO. Square-Enix should fight them, but knows that they won't never be defetead.

    On the "botting side" there won't be a serious problem till people will start using Pull Bot against the other gamers, because this is the best way to ruin their game experience. I hope SE will do something for this.
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    Just report as many bots as you see every time you see them and we'll be good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malakhim View Post
    Just report as many bots as you see every time you see them and we'll be good.
    I did that once. Went there a month later and they were still farming Darksteel Beastcoins.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elexia View Post
    It's ok to be in denial when you've never played more than 1 MMO in your life. We all know RMT didn't hit big in XIV till around the end of it's life span when it was a smart idea to start hoarding gil for the relaunch.

    We also know botting doesn't exist in any MMO ever. You never hear about hacks or bots existing in MMOs. It's practically unheard of.
    Yeah, I haven't played more than 1 MMO in my life.

    Fyi, bots aren't made using addon API, they're made as standalone programs that mimic button presses and as packet sniffers, which is what makes them almost impossible to detect programmatically, and require a human eye.

    And it's not the "standardization" of an MMO that enables RMT, it's how much demand there is for RMT goods, which is a direct result of having rare, powerful and needed items be tradable between players and be easily monopolized. FFXI struggled with this for years before more Rare/Ex items were introduced as replacements or alternatives for things like Peacock Charm.
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    There were not a lot of RTMs shouting or advertising (that I saw), but there were a lot being PLed in Limsa Lominsa. There was one area I could not do leve quests in because there were so many RTMs there. It laged me to death. =(
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lillium View Post
    There were not a lot of RTMs shouting or advertising (that I saw), but there were a lot being PLed in Limsa Lominsa. There was one area I could not do leve quests in because there were so many RTMs there. It laged me to death. =(
    Yeah they were always at Cedarwood running Leves
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