So Devs...Are we going to rule with an iron fist this time around?

[Scarletyoshi]

And you know what... I prefer them providing something than -nothing- at all.

They provided a team to specifically deal with RMTs, sure it may not be the exact fix to your problem but it was something to help thwart the plague of bots.

People tend to not be grateful for the little things. I guess you preferred nothing.

That's an unfortunate trap that some people allow themselves to be caught in. Just doing something is not always better than doing nothing at all, especially when that something distracts from taking actual effective action, or even makes the situation worse.

If you cut your hand and someone gives you a wet tissue declaring "Problem solved!" should you be thankful for the "little things," or would you reject that something in favor of fighting for a solution that actually helped your situation?

Don't be too quick to accept the notion that the only two options are "nothing at all" and "something so ineffectual it might as well be nothing."

[Dzian]

If only there was a way to track dirty money trades, they could put at least temp bans on people that buy from RMTs.

Something like that could be a relatively simple solution. Simply have a program that flags all trades / transactions that value over a certain threshhold. then have your XIV version of the STF investigate them all.

Ultimately that could end up with a lot of flagged transactions to be checked but for the most part the legitimate ones should be pretty quick to investigate.

It could also be possible to set various threshholds for different transactions. i.e. Maybe 500k for player to player trading to be flagged. But if someone pays 50k for a single water shard then flag it. A system like that would help against RMT a lot.

As for bots / addons I think addons would never take control of your character. In my view an addon would simply be a informative widget on screen that tells me how far away the mob I want to shoot is. Or a percentage readout of a mobs remaining hp. maybe even provides a visual indication of an aoes range. Addons should essentially be informative not decision making.

I would say then that an addon should never take control. i.e "if hp = <50% cast cure" or any other decision making process. IMO that falls under a bot and shouldn't be allowed.

I also they do visibly act alot more to clamp down on and punish botters and other exploiters. a lot of which were so blatently obvious such as casting flare repeatedly to farm steel while afk for several hours.

[mbncd]

Something like that could be a relatively simple solution. Simply have a program that flags all trades / transactions that value over a certain threshhold. then have your XIV version of the STF investigate them all.

Ultimately that could end up with a lot of flagged transactions to be checked but for the most part the legitimate ones should be pretty quick to investigate.

It could also be possible to set various threshholds for different transactions. i.e. Maybe 500k for player to player trading to be flagged. But if someone pays 50k for a single water shard then flag it. A system like that would help against RMT a lot.
[Snip]

I've seen another game track the values of its items in both trade sales and through its version of an official market. The game is then able to recommend the current approximate price of the item to players. It's a very useful service that makes both buying and selling much easier. That sort of system could also help with something like this, flagging drastically uneven trades.

Yes, there will be people wanting to give expensive gifts or moving things to their mules or other things like that, but it would still be good to generally flag that sort of thing for investigation. If it's something innocent, it will likely look decidedly different from RMT in any investigation.

[Pandemonium]

I think the lady doth protest too much!

Clearly you all want the RMT/Botters banned, so that you can yourselves waltz in and bot/RMT uncontested!!

#shameonyouall

[Kallera]

I think the lady doth protest too much!

Clearly you all want the RMT/Botters banned, so that you can yourselves waltz in and bot/RMT uncontested!!

#shameonyouall

"The only thing that stops a bad guy with a bot is a good guy with a bot"

SE must improve its mental health facilities in order to stop this rmt nonsense! We must invest in our FFXI and WoW veterans lest they fall into poverty, and Powerleveling and eating mithkabobs willy nilly!/sarcasm

[IndigoDarkwolf]

We must invest in our FFXI and WoW veterans lest they fall into poverty, and Powerleveling and eating mithkabobs willy nilly!/sarcasm

They're called Miq'abobs now.

[Cojika]

I think the lady doth protest too much!

Clearly you all want the RMT/Botters banned, so that you can yourselves waltz in and bot/RMT uncontested!!

#shameonyouall

[Sartori]

Okay, I guess that answers that...