So Devs...Are we going to rule with an iron fist this time around?

[Sartori]

By that I mean botting, rmt's, and the like...

Thanks

[Elexia]

The reason RMT wasn't huge in XIV comparatively was because XIV had a different design to it, now, however, that they're making ARR a 'standard mmo', RMT will be pretty large, much larger than they'll be able to handle.

Botting however, they're allowing Add-ons, so they kind of told b-...end-game shells it's perfectly ok to script bots. Hopefully they'll enforce things more heavily, but as we seen with every MMO...it's inevitable to happen and it always starts with:

"It doesn't give me an advantage on (content), just (content.)"

And snowballs from there.

[Wolfie]

The reason RMT wasn't huge in XIV comparatively was because XIV had a different design to it, now, however, that they're making ARR a 'standard mmo', RMT will be pretty large, much larger than they'll be able to handle.

Botting however, they're allowing Add-ons, so they kind of told b-...end-game shells it's perfectly ok to script bots. Hopefully they'll enforce things more heavily, but as we seen with every MMO...it's inevitable to happen and it always starts with:

"It doesn't give me an advantage on (content), just (content.)"

And snowballs from there.

Jesus Christ there is so much wrong in this post I don't even know where to start.

[Elexia]

Jesus Christ there is so much wrong in this post I don't even know where to start.

It's ok to be in denial when you've never played more than 1 MMO in your life. We all know RMT didn't hit big in XIV till around the end of it's life span when it was a smart idea to start hoarding gil for the relaunch.

We also know botting doesn't exist in any MMO ever. You never hear about hacks or bots existing in MMOs. It's practically unheard of.

[Wolfie]

It's ok to be in denial when you've never played more than 1 MMO in your life. We all know RMT didn't hit big in XIV till around the end of it's life span when it was a smart idea to start hoarding gil for the relaunch.

We also know botting doesn't exist in any MMO ever. You never hear about hacks or bots existing in MMOs. It's practically unheard of.

Yeah, I haven't played more than 1 MMO in my life.

Fyi, bots aren't made using addon API, they're made as standalone programs that mimic button presses and as packet sniffers, which is what makes them almost impossible to detect programmatically, and require a human eye.

And it's not the "standardization" of an MMO that enables RMT, it's how much demand there is for RMT goods, which is a direct result of having rare, powerful and needed items be tradable between players and be easily monopolized. FFXI struggled with this for years before more Rare/Ex items were introduced as replacements or alternatives for things like Peacock Charm.

[Blackpearlguy]

Yeah, I haven't played more than 1 MMO in my life.

Fyi, bots aren't made using add-on API, they're made as standalone programs that mimic button presses and as packet sniffers, which is what makes them almost impossible to detect as a program, and requires a human eye.

This, we won't be able to have add on bots.. Even packet sniffers are hard to see to the human eye, as long as the users responding with real time tells then they're usually fine.

[Colino]

Yeah, I haven't played more than 1 MMO in my life.

Just leave it, the amount of negativity she manages to spout on a daily basis (not even informed or well thought negativity, just plain negativity) is beyond me. I don't understand how a person can hate on something so much and stick around just to keep hating on it.

Yeah they were always at Cedarwood running Leves

Those were around pretty much since the beginning though. Reps had mentioned they had many of them banned but there was just no way to keep up with how many accounts they were creating.

[Firon]

The reason RMT wasn't huge in XIV comparatively was because XIV had a different design to it, now, however, that they're making ARR a 'standard mmo', RMT will be pretty large, much larger than they'll be able to handle.

Botting however, they're allowing Add-ons, so they kind of told b-...end-game shells it's perfectly ok to script bots. Hopefully they'll enforce things more heavily, but as we seen with every MMO...it's inevitable to happen and it always starts with:

"It doesn't give me an advantage on (content), just (content.)"

And snowballs from there.

Dumbest post I ever read. When FFXI had the whole market taken over by RMT like no other mmo i ever seen, and XI was far from what we call standard now.

[Zenaku]

The reason RMT wasn't huge in XIV comparatively was because XIV had a different design to it, now, however, that they're making ARR a 'standard mmo', RMT will be pretty large, much larger than they'll be able to handle.

Botting however, they're allowing Add-ons, so they kind of told b-...end-game shells it's perfectly ok to script bots. Hopefully they'll enforce things more heavily, but as we seen with every MMO...it's inevitable to happen and it always starts with:

"It doesn't give me an advantage on (content), just (content.)"

And snowballs from there.

add-on are UI base only so i don't think people can do much to make it work so you could bot.

[Pwnagraphic]

The reason RMT wasn't huge in XIV comparatively was because XIV had a different design to it, now, however, that they're making ARR a 'standard mmo', RMT will be pretty large, much larger than they'll be able to handle.

Botting however, they're allowing Add-ons, so they kind of told b-...end-game shells it's perfectly ok to script bots. Hopefully they'll enforce things more heavily, but as we seen with every MMO...it's inevitable to happen and it always starts with:

"It doesn't give me an advantage on (content), just (content.)"

And snowballs from there.

I bought gil one time in FFXI.. I swear when I did it, I felt like I had just committed a murder or something.