Highly Notorious Monsters

[Alhanelem]

Ok, if this is your stance, why do you hate hardcores, whats wrong with them, we have every right to enjoy the game like you do.

I don't hate hardcores. I'm pretty hardcore myself. I'm pretty hardcore about playing the game. Waiting does not have to be a major part of being hardcore.

just like post-abyssea FF11 after soloing my 3rd Empy weapon at lvl 85 I said fk it because it was rediculously easy.

You're just like me then. You want hard content. But wait times don't make content hard. They just make it take an unnecessary amount of time. I want challenging battles. I want battles that not everyone can beat. But I don't feel like I should have to spend 3 hours a day idle to have the chance to attempt those battles.

With that being said the argument over why you should or should not have hnms seems ridiculos when the best excuse we get is "I don't want it"

I'm getting sick of repeating myself. Nowhere in this thread did I say I don't want HNMs- because I DO want HNMs. What I don't want is HNMs that have ridiculous mechanics behind them. HNM = fine. Things like spawn windows and excessive amounts of waiting = not fine. Time consuming does not equal hard and challenging.

[Jeronlmo]

I don't hate hardcores. I'm pretty hardcore myself. I'm pretty hardcore about playing the game. Waiting does not have to be a major part of being hardcore.

You're just like me then. You want hard content. But wait times don't make content hard. They just make it take an unnecessary amount of time. I want challenging battles. I want battles that not everyone can beat. But I don't feel like I should have to spend 3 hours a day idle to have the chance to attempt those battles.


I'm getting sick of repeating myself. Nowhere in this thread did I say I don't want HNMs- because I DO want HNMs. What I don't want is HNMs that have ridiculous mechanics behind them. HNM = fine. Things like spawn windows and excessive amounts of waiting = not fine. Time consuming does not equal hard and challenging.

I very highly doubt any other actual hardcores out there consider you anything close, but reguardless were both tired of repeating things. You want HNM's around the game to spawn the second you log in and only be claimable by you (see instances). The rest on the other hand want HNM's that rotate time zones so specific people do not have indefinite claim over them and as stated several times before windows have several more benefits.

Such as, what if you do not know the ToD, and given your likely very limited play time you never would in this system, how would you go about getting it? Would you ask HNM's to give up their ToD's? The only way you could actually find it yourself would be to camp where the HNM spawns up to 24hrs waiting for people to show up (which could just be more people camping the ToD) and wait for the actual spawn and yes I do remember your "the HNM should be an epic battle type thing so its the same as a window bs argument". The fact is people fight against long fights just like windows, no longer do people want AV/PW 2hr fights because their precious little butter fly time is to important to the world, you know, curing cancer and all that im sure.

In a window, atleast in FF11, not saying they need to be quite as long, but a 3hr window gives you up to 3hrs every single day when you can just search the zone and see people waiting opposed to the likely 5-10min fight where you would have to catch these people in the zone who knew the exact tod already.

Edit: The fact that you repeat so much is mostly your own doing btw, you generally skip the bulk of what people say to keep your world in order and every page or 2 simply repeat what you said before hoping those same people that proved you wrong before will stop trying, and you repeat this over and over until it finally works thousands of post later, youve been doing it for months... and months.

Your method for "winning" arguments is childish and not truely winning anything, you stagnate actual conversations, like how this thread was originally made to come up with idea's to make HNM's work better, yet all youve done is bash FF11 because you know it bugs people. When I first started posted I clearly said several times the HNM's that were in FF11 100% cannot happen again, including long respawns, atleast to the same degree because gear swaps were lost, you know the thing you also fought to get rid off because macro's apparently relate to "programming" for you.