Highly Notorious Monsters

[Alhanelem]

Your version of "well designed content" revolves around a broken system that does in fact revolve around you.

You keep revolving this to be revolving around me when in fact it is not. So please, stop revolving alleged revolutions and pretending there's some kind of self serving agenda here when there isn't one, before I revolve your revolving revolutionist revolutions.

There is no middle ground. What 1 group wants is almost the opposite of what the other group wants.

I disagree. There can be content that most classic HNMs can enjoy as well as modern MMO players. The real problem in this thread is people being too stubborn to see it- because I want HNMs just as much as anyone here. The only thing I don't want is disfunctional pop mechanics that serve no beneficial purpose other than to deter all but the most diehard fans from wanting to participate, thereby leaving more kills and drops for the few people left. If anyone is selfish here it is the people pushing to retain bad pop mechanics.

You can have all of those types of spawns, but HNM's/windows should be there too.

Your mentality here seems to be that if it doesn't have 30 min pop windows, it's not an HNM. HNM is an informal designation for a very powerful monster, more powerful than those simply called NMs. It does not make any reference whatsoever to the pop mechanic employed. I don't know why you're fighting so hard to keep a poorly designed method of popping when there are many other ways that are less disfunctional and less suseptible to cheating and abuse. Maybe its because you/your LS botted, so you benefitted from the pop window mechanic? I don't know and can't say for sure, but I haven't met anyone else that liked it that didn't cheat or attempt to cheat.

[Andrien]

There were stuff like claim bots, even Ixion botting, and fishing. They were running mods that allows them to see through walls, or be notified when a specific monster in the zone pops etc.

There is no way for a GM to find out whose botting or not. That is another problem.

[Zumi]

I am pretty sure that FFXIV will have all major content where you fight bosses that drop loot in instances. Not sit around for 3 hours wait for 30 min windows and have people claim bot. Even FFXI moved away from their old system, they even made the old kings pop item from ks99.

[Donexan]

I need nidhogg. I miss nidhogg. And i need KA! lots of KA.

[Gildarts]

lol gota get hold of you for beta silly! haha

[Duuude007]

Even from the standpoint of being in a HNM LS, I am very aware of NM fatigue. I have spent entire days doing the same menial tasks over and over, spawn condition variety would be great. From monopolizing Dodore and Uraeus, to alternating between AV and CC, NM fatigue does exist. We the players experience this fatigue.

[AresGodofwar]

All I want is SE to bring back some type of events like HNMs camping, Dynamis and Sky/Sea for us that hardcore players switching to FF14. Those kinda events to me where the best, not only because of it's competition and drama... HNM LS to me was where I would my virtual family and where I can find really dedicated players with skills.

[Eade]

I would also like to see HNMs in this game. I do agree that cutting down the respawn time and windows would be a good idea. Or even the random pop idea throughout an entire zone (similar to Sandworm and Dark Ixion) would be an awesome idea, as someone else said. It would make it so everyone has a chance at killing said nm and receiving whatever items it drops. Just please make it a challenge, not a time sink.

Also someone else had the idea of maybe when you find that HNM your group gets teleported to an instanced zone. I think that is an awesome idea. If this is implemented though, I think if they make the HNM pop at a random time in any zone, everyone who is in the party or alliance no matter where they are in the game should get ported to said zone, but I think before we are ported it should ask us "would you like to be teleported to this zone?". That way you don't have to wait 30 mins for everyone to gather together and if you choose to not participate you have a choice. This way you still have that competition of finding the HNM if multiple ls's are out looking for it but do not have to worry about someone stealing the hate due to how the claim system is.

[Blackpearlguy]

Dark Ixion/Sandworm type spawn or "hunting" conditions so you have to compete, spawn times that give it some mystique and make the world feel alive, and only on harder content the rest of the NMs can be found in FATE. I think this is what the majority of people have been shouting since the first page. Get ready for B3 where we can make are voices heard on the other forums.

Spitballing here so bear with me. Wouldn't we all scream awesome if Nidhogg randomly attacked a city every 48~72 hours? It could start out as a FATE event where everyone/anyone can fight him off, then you have to chase him on your chocobo with the rest of your free company to his lair where you instance in. Any Free Company can instance in but he'd be extremely hard to beat with rare drops/drop rate etc. It eliminates the competition drama, still kinda gives the same affect.