Back Paddling is horrible.

[pool842]

How is having unrestrained movement...restricting it?

If anything being forced to backpedal all the time is more restricting than anything I'm used to using my camera to keep a watch on my surroundings while my character continues to move forward. I'm not really a fan of my camera dictating my movement direction.

Sure you can unlock the camera but the controls look less than wieldy. Personally I feel that the current Control scheme they have in Alpha and one akin to our current one will both show up, room for everyone to play how they want. I don't see any reason that the system would restrict us from having both control schemes.

It does not dictate your direction it can if you need it to thats the great things about it.

[pool842]

And people still keep replying like they never saw backpedaling in 1.0. You DO backpedal IN BATTLE, it's already been said, and what the OP means is not for it to be taken out of the game, but for it not to be the default movement scheme. As in, not out of battle. Just when locked onto something. You know, like it's been ever since XI. Also,
You make it sound as if playing with a controller was a bad thing? What's with that?

Its bad for an mmo yes it restricts what you can and cannot do.

[Klefth]

It has not in the 8 or so years I have been playing MMOs. And before you repeat that already burned out "then you haven't played any MMO but 11 and 14", I have, and having to play with a keyboard and a mouse has always felt unnatural and uncomfortable as hell in any MMO BUT good old Ragnarok Online. And to this day, I like that game better than any of the more popular MMOs out there. I found the controls on the more modern and popular ones so damned annoying that I couldn't bring myself to play them for a month. And I tried multiple times.

Keyboards are for typing, mouses for clicking and browsing menus. They're clearly designed for that purpose. I can't see how it's supposed to feel "natural" to use them to control a 3D game. At all. They may be good for FPS games or tactical games which feel just natural to play on a PC, but not on the 3D environment of an RPG, MMO, action game, or pretty much anything outside those 2 genres.

[pool842]

It has not in the 8 or so years I have been playing MMOs. And before you repeat that already burned out "then you haven't played any MMO but 11 and 14", I have, and having to play with a keyboard and a mouse has always felt unnatural and uncomfortable as hell in any MMO BUT good old Ragnarok Online. And to this day, I like that game better than any of the more popular MMOs out there. I found the controls on the more modern and popular ones so damned annoying that I couldn't bring myself to play them for a month. And I tried multiple times.

Keyboards are for typing, mouses for clicking and browsing menus. They're clearly designed for that purpose. I can't see how it's supposed to feel "natural" to use them to control a 3D game. At all. They may be good for FPS games or tactical games which feel just natural to play on a PC, but not on the 3D environment of an RPG, MMO, action game, or pretty much anything outside those 2 genres.

I will just make a video for all you noobs I guess.... f my life...

[ispano]

It has not in the 8 or so years I have been playing MMOs. And before you repeat that already burned out "then you haven't played any MMO but 11 and 14", I have, and having to play with a keyboard and a mouse has always felt unnatural and uncomfortable as hell in any MMO BUT good old Ragnarok Online. And to this day, I like that game better than any of the more popular MMOs out there. I found the controls on the more modern and popular ones so damned annoying that I couldn't bring myself to play them for a month. And I tried multiple times.

Keyboards are for typing, mouses for clicking and browsing menus. They're clearly designed for that purpose. I can't see how it's supposed to feel "natural" to use them to control a 3D game. At all. They may be good for FPS games or tactical games which feel just natural to play on a PC, but not on the 3D environment of an RPG, MMO, action game, or pretty much anything outside those 2 genres.

You can't? Or you won't? I understand how everyone here feels about their choice in control methods for various games. Agree, maybe not, but understand, easily. First/Third Person MMORPGs work almost the same as an FPS control wise. Plus the more action oriented the game is, the more of an advantage the keyboard/mouse setup has.

But can't understand? Not sure what I would call that, so I won't.

[casker]

Okay, I found it.
(Now with screenshot)

Now pay attention to Yoshi-P's character as he's running away from the bridge, you should see him briefly look behind him while he's running, and his character doesn't turn around with him.

I hope this is enough to satisfy you, Majidah.

This is not the same thing. He is just gradually strafing and turning the camera manually.

[pool842]

This is not the same thing. He is just gradually strafing and turning the camera manually.

Actually this precisely shows the advantage of backpedaling in a full free environment.

[casker]

back peddling is handy. With changes, its needed. Wait and see. You can still quickly reverse direction. Want to strafe , then strafe, wnt to step back with ranged attacks, then do it, want to switch direction and run, you can.

I wouldn't look at alpha videos for creating posts. Not everything is shown in that department.

Yes I'm sure you can still do it. With a keyboard and mouse. It seems to me however console users will be a different story and need something else. Turning the camera will be like the difference between playing an FPS on console or pc, putting console players at a disadvantage.

And since they need something else, why even use the typical system when the system they had already accomodated everyone, k+m as well as console.

[Jynx]

Then you have never played another mmo but 14 or 11 so no point in talking to you

How droll.

You obviously dont care what anyone else thinks so no point in trying to talk to the brick wall you continue to reinforce with comments like that. You know nothing of the MMOs let alone what games I play so I would apreciate you not assuming things about me because of my preferences.

[Thebard]

Actually this precisely shows the advantage of backpedaling in a full free environment.

Exactly right.