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    Quote Originally Posted by Gramul View Post
    Community building, not bound by quests telling you where to go, filter out terrible players, all sorts of stuff.
    Never a huge fan of it myself, but I can recognize the appeal. It's for people who prefer a more gradual experience. A more mellow take on progression because they feel more satisfied when reaching a new tier for their patience and commitment.
    Eh, not really.

    -All the important stuff in World of Warcraft is still heavily party driven, so you still get the community building.
    -Instead of a quest market telling you where to go, you had an internet guide. Everybody partied at the same places at the same levels.
    -End-game had TONS of terrible players. It's not hard to be bad at an MMO.

    I don't really see the "being satisfied" as an excuse. Half the time, when I beat something in FFXI, I thought to myself "about damn time." Yes, there was a challenge, but to say that games like World of Warcraft don't have challenges simply because leveling up isn't one of them is silly. I never understood why simply gaining levels in FFXI is seen as some sort of accomplishment...it was just time consuming.

    Quote Originally Posted by Elexia View Post
    Not even SE cared for the dialog when they showed off the video. Quest grinding is the exact same. It's there for grinding and making you level up. If every MMO "fed you lore with quest chaining" why is it that most people don't give a shit for the dialog it displays..? I know someone will say: "It was to save time"...yet plenty of other companies had no problem letting dialog in quests flow naturally like you're reading it.

    When you're on a rail you're not going to be exploring, you're going to be led to the exact point of the quest and back.
    I can't tell you how many people I had to explain what Dalamud was to in 1.0. Some people who play MMO's just don't care about story, they're all about 1337 skillz and uber pwnage!!!1 Just because some people skip all the quest stuff in other games doesn't mean everyone does. Stop generalizing because you hate WoW.
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    Last edited by KiriA500; 12-07-2012 at 01:13 AM.