CG Midlander

[NoloeTazier]

Update on Ul'dah.

• The reason Corgeuvais was in the Nanawa mines: He was trying to mine for gems and ore to sell to repay for his blunder at the Parade.
• The reason Corguevais was at Black Brush when Ascilia arrived to "seek vengeance on her father's enemy": He was preparing for his exile, exiled Ul'dahns live at Black Brush.
• Niellefresne is only shown in Echos because he's ALREADY dead/in his stage of frozen death.
• Corguevais may have had a hand in Nielle's murder.

  Corguevais: I therefore humbly ask that you place me in charge of settling his affairs.
  The said affairs could be referring to the Vengeance orders that Thaumaturge carry out for the recently deceased. If Warburton had Vengeance orders then Corgeuvais could have been the one to carry them out, not necessarily being the one to stab Niellefresne, but being the one to set them in motion. Of course if an exile isn't granted these permissions then it's null and void. Theory still doesn't answer what Nielle saw.

Quote from Warburton prior to the Parade:

Warburton: There's a hamlet nearby I'm trying to reach. Might there be somewhere my coin could find a chocobo to see me there?

I almost want to say that he wants to travel to Little Ala Mhigo, but looking at quests I can't help but speculate (to go along with my theory that the Ul'dah Mainstoryline Quests are years before the present --1572) that refugees do not show up in Ul'dah until a few years before 1572, enough time for Raubahn Aldynn to win in the Coliseum and come into power. So which hamlet does Warburton want to visit and why when he's suppose to have valuable information?

Still no answer to what attacked Ascilia at Black Brush upon her arrival, was said to be a gigantic beast.

Ultimate Super OMG Theory:


Ascilia is Minfilia. Their names are VERY similar. They both have the same light blue eyes and blonde hair. The theory that some years have passed since the Warburton/Corguevais/Niellefresne, is strengthened with Ascilia as a Hyur aging into Minfilia. Damielliot is a sickly Elezen, and Elezen age very slowly so he does not age as rapidly as a Hyur does.

When you bump into Minfilia outside the Thaumaturge guild, you talk to her and she responds with:

Minfilia: I had not expected to see you here. Have you come to pay your respects to someone.
Minfilia: Have I seen the bard Thancred?
Minfilia: Why do you ask? Has he come here?

She remembers Thancred from her younger days and it clearly shows that Thancred at the time was not in Ul'dah, lending more credit to everything being an Echo of the past. Also after she answers you, the Echo begins and Thancred appears. There are 2 people, whom both have witnessed the Echo and not counting Niellefresne because he's dead, who respond to you during your Echo jumps within the Echo: Thancred and Ascilia. So the 2 people who have a history of dealing with the Power of the Echo, both have the ability to sense and interact with you inside the Echo.

/deepbreath. Then in the Faded to White quest Tataru says this:

Tataru: You found another who you believe saw Niellefresne's last moments in the undercroft?

We saw what happened because we were able to Echo jump within the Echo to see what happened through the eyes of Ascilia and the Gem within Heartstrike.

/bow

[Warlock]

~snip~

Only problem with this theory would be.. she not remembering you at all the same way she remembers Tanchred.
But other than that sounds like a possible mindblown theory indeed

[Catapult]

Only problem with this theory would be.. she not remembering you at all the same way she remembers Tanchred.
But other than that sounds like a possible mindblown theory indeed

The servers may be under maintenance, but I've taken a look at my video recordings and there was an extra line Noloe didn't quote. She DOES remember you.

Minfilia: I had not expected to see you here. Have you come to pay your respects to someone.
Minfilia: Have I seen the bard Thancred?
Minfilia: Why do you ask, has he come here?

She simply hasn't seen you for a very long time. "Dear me, where did you come from?" - that sort of thing.

Yep, I'm calling that one concrete now. Ascilia is Minfilia.

[NoloeTazier]

The servers may be under maintenance, but I've taken a look at my video recordings and there was an extra line Noloe didn't quote. She DOES remember you.


She simply hasn't seen you for a very long time. "Dear me, where did you come from?" - that sort of thing.

Yep, I'm calling that one concrete now. Ascilia is Minfilia.

My bad, I thought I copy/pasted it all. Then when Warlock said that about her not remembering I was trying to find the log myself from my posts lol ty for that

• Niellefresne = frozen in death.
• F'lhaminn = Not the same since Nielle's 'death.' Doesn't seem to be the Songstress of Ul'dah anymore. Lost her muse? "There's only one I can sing for."
• Greinfarr = Still a well known Gladiator but slowly losing his ways as he's resorting to thievery to try and obtain the Heartstrike dagger to help out Nielle. Story incomplete.
• Popokkuli and Seserukka = Not up to much besides being Miners and taking care of their sister.
• Corguevais = MIA. May have been killed by the Lala Twins.
• Warburton = MIA. May be dead. May be alive.
• Ascilia = Minfilia

There's gotta be a hint somewhere to what Nielle saw inside the crypt. Servers need to come back up so I can look =[

[Catapult]

Ultimate Super OMG Theory:


Ascilia is Minfilia. Their names are VERY similar. They both have the same light blue eyes and blonde hair. The theory that some years have passed since the Warburton/Corguevais/Niellefresne, is strengthened with Ascilia as a Hyur aging into Minfilia. Damielliot is a sickly Elezen, and Elezen age very slowly so he does not age as rapidly as a Hyur does.

When you bump into Minfilia outside the Thaumaturge guild, you talk to her and she responds with:
She remembers Thancred from her younger days and it clearly shows that Thancred at the time was not in Ul'dah, lending more credit to everything being an Echo of the past. Also after she answers you, the Echo begins and Thancred appears. There are 2 people, whom both have witnessed the Echo and not counting Niellefresne because he's dead, who respond to you during your Echo jumps within the Echo: Thancred and Ascilia. So the 2 people who have a history of dealing with the Power of the Echo, both have the ability to sense and interact with you inside the Echo.

/deepbreath. Then in the Faded to White quest Tataru says this: We saw what happened because we were able to Echo jump within the Echo to see what happened through the eyes of Ascilia and the Gem within Heartstrike.

/bow

I do like this theory, although it does open a new can of worms about the nature of the echo.

[Warlock]

I do like this theory, although it does open a new can of worms about the nature of the echo.

Does Ascilia and Minfilia mean two different things too like that Roegadyn in the Marauder quests? lol

And i agree with you.. we are able to change events through Echo i think we get the full package of abilities with the Echo stuff not even Minfilia knows about

[NoloeTazier]

Does Ascilia and Minfilia mean two different things too like that Roegadyn in the Marauder quests? lol

And i agree with you.. we are able to change events through Echo i think we get the full package of abilities with the Echo stuff not even Minfilia knows about

Glad you brought that up, that gives more precedent to people changing their name. I looked up ASC and MINF but I cannot find anything, a big reach is ASC meaning Altered-State of Consciousness lol