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    I'm working on a Astral/Umbral era timeline, taking every number I can find and putting them into it. CS/NPC Dialogue/Harbor Herald, The Raven, The Mythril Eye. Pretty interesting stuff, especially with how the 5 Races come into play in Eorzea time wise.
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    Btw, something completely different: anyone else thinks the "Tempest" track was stolen by Darnus from Gaius? What makes me think this is the wolf cry part near the middle of the track. That music was probably meant to be playing when we get to fight Gaius... maybe it will be used in ARR again?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Soukyuu View Post
    Btw, something completely different: anyone else thinks the "Tempest" track was stolen by Darnus from Gaius? What makes me think this is the wolf cry part near the middle of the track. That music was probably meant to be playing when we get to fight Gaius... maybe it will be used in ARR again?
    Actually, I thought it was for Garuda.
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    So is Future Perfect the first time The Circle of Knowledge meets you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peucritond View Post
    So is Future Perfect the first time The Circle of Knowledge meets you?
    If that's the Path of the Twelve quest I'm thinking of then yep, even though you 'met' one (or 2 in Gridania's case) in the Main City State quests. In the Ul'dah storyline, Ascilia is able to remember you because she has the Power of the Echo, while Thancred even though he's aware of The Echo, he cannot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NoloeTazier View Post
    If that's the Path of the Twelve quest I'm thinking of then yep, even though you 'met' one (or 2 in Gridania's case) in the Main City State quests. In the Ul'dah storyline, Ascilia is able to remember you because she has the Power of the Echo, while Thancred even though he's aware of The Echo, he cannot.
    Not so. Thancred has felt the echo. After all, he tells you that he will continue to search for the one who gave him this power. He remembers you, because you were instrumental in witnessing Nielle's murder. And he even gives you your quest reward.

    He simply hasn't seen you in ten years.
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    hes probably gonna be 14s version of Aldo if we every meet him.
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    I found it interesting that it was the Path Companion that recognized whatever Circle member you talk to in Futures Perfect.
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    Eorzean Timeline
    First let me explain that the Final Fantasy XIV history tells us that things started with The First Astral era started with the wandering tribes coming to Eorzea and the Twelve welcomed them. Then they began to war and the Twelve left Eorzea. Now if we take this and go with the the repeating pattern we get: First Astral -> First Umbral -> Second Astral -> Second Umbral -> Third Astral -> Third Umbral -> Fourth Astral -> Fourth Umbral -> Fifth Astral -> Fifth Umbral -> Sixth Astral -> Sixth Umbral. But this does not line up correctly since we know we're in the Sixth Astral which turns into the Seventh Umbral. Since there's so little known, I can only expand on what I do know and understand. Thank you.

    Time of the Twelve
    • The Time of the Twelve is the Era when the Twelve were said to live on Eorzea. It was said the land was inhabited by gods and goddesses. This could refer to the Twelve themselves, it could be the Twelve along with Primals and other magical beings, or it could just be a race of magical people. We don't know currently.
    • Wandering tribes began to appear in Eorzea. This could only be 3 races: Elezen, Lalafell, or Roegadyn. Miqo'te and Hyur are given specific dates to when they appeared in Eorzea. It could also be that it was an old race that evolved into one of the 3 or simply race(s) that went extinct.

    *(YA) = Years Ago

    First Umbral Era - Element: Wind
    Unknown Time --- The wandering tribes began to war with each other. The Twelve (gods and goddesses) were angered and left the land of Eorzea to the tribes.

    First Astral Era
    Unknown Time --- The Age of Man begins.

    Second Umbral Era - Element: Lightning
    Unknown Time --- Nothing is known of this calamity.

    Second Astral Era
    Unknown Time --- Nothing is known of this era.

    Third Umbral Era - Element: Fire
    Unknown Time --- Speculation: Possibly the rise of Bahamut?

    Third Astral Era
    5000 (YA) :: -3428 ---
    • Allagan Empire founded. Expands the entire continent of Aldenard and possibly Vylbrand.
    • Allagan Empire constructs the Royal Allagan Sunway and Starway in present day Thanalan.
    • Allagan Empire imprisons Bahamut. Possibly what brought about the end of the Third Umbral era.

    Fourth Umbral Era - Element: Earth
    4000 (YA) :: -2428--- Allagan Empire's destruction ushers in the Fourth Umbral Era. Possibly due to imprisonment of Bahamut.

    Fourth Astral Era
    Less than 4000 (YA) more than 1500(YA) --- Nothing is known of this era.

    Fifth Umbral Era - Element: Ice
    Less than 4000 (YA) more than 1500(YA) --- Ancestors of the Miqo'te tribes travel across the frozen seas following food.

    Fifth Astral Era
    1500 (YA) ---
    • Grand Companies come together to prepare for the Sixth Umbral era.
    • Many White Mages abuse their power and the art begins to die out.
    • Shatotto, a very talented thaumaturge, casts Meteor to bring down a 'Star' and uses the fragments to create the Stardust Rod.

    Sixth Umbral Era - Element: Water
    1500 (YA) ---
    • A Great Flood submerges and damages many parts of Eorzea. Possibly caused by Urianger and the Archons.

    Sixth Astral Era
    Dates are current to Sixth Astral calendar years.
    ~ denotes around the time of.

    233 --- Lewphon of Sharlayan writes "The Five Ages - An Eorzean Chronology."
    ~572 ---
    • Hyur begin to migrate to Eorzea in three great migratory waves.
    • Founding fathers of Ishgard encounter Nidhogg. Haldrath takes up his slain sire's lancer and thrusts it into Nidhogg's eye, the first Dragoon.
    ~972 --- Sultan Sworn founded, sworn to Sultan. Three swords were forged for the 3 Paladin's who founded the Sultan Sworn, Curtana was born.
    1022 --- The Ixali settle in Twelveswood calling it "Tinolqa" or "Blessed Forest" in the common tongue. They build houses in the trees and can fly.They worship Garuda.
    1022 to 1422 --- Ixali are exiled from the Twelveswood by the Elementals. They travel to the canyons of Xelphatol. Their young begin to be born without the feathers on their wings that catch the winds and allow them to fly.
    1272~1372 --- Sil'dih civilization is destroyed in it's war with Ul'dah. Was then said to be buried by sandstorms. Possibly could still be around. Aqueducts extended to Nophica's Well and the Copperbell Mines.
    1422 --- Ixali invent the 'dirigbles' to make up for their lack of flight.
    1468 --- Ala Mhigo invades the Twelveswood beginning the Autumn War.
    1469 --- Ul'dah, Limsa Lomina, & Ishgard send reinforcements to Gridania. Ala Mhigo's offense is halted and eventually the Alliance wins and Ala Mhigo withdraws.
    1472 ---
    • The Goblin Pilgrimage begins.
    • Ququruka creates Barbatos to destroy Eorzea.
    1483~1492 --- Solus soz Galvus born (Is said to be over 80 years old)
    1521 --- The Empire of Garlemald founded under Solus zos Galvus.
    1542 --- Toto-Rak sealed by Elder Seedseer.
    1557 ---
    • After inciting unrest within the masses of Ala Mhigo, the Garleans are able to capture the city and proceed to occupy it.
    • Nidhogg destroys the town of Ferndale.
    • The Dragoon Ser Alberic meets Nidhogg in combat, Ser Alberic suffers injuries that make him lose his Dragoon powers.
    • Nidhogg begins it's slumber after suffering wounds.
    1562 ---
    • The Garlean flagship Agrias invades Mor Dhona and does battle with the dragons. The Guardian of the Lake Midgarsormr appears and destroys the Agrias and the Garlean fleet. The battle is called Battle of Silvertear Skies
    • Primals are released with the Ceruleum explosion caused by the impact of the Agrias and Midgarsormr colliding with the Silvertear Lake.
    • Echo awakens in mass.
    • Mor Dhona's landscape begins to change in the resulting explosion and aetherial disturbances.
    • The City-state Main Scenarios Echo begin as we enter the world of Eorzea with our characters.
    • Beastmen are exiled from Ul'dah out of fear of being targeted by Garleans.
    • The Bozja Citadel is destroyed in an experiment to bring down the lesser moon Dalamud.
    • The incident causes Cid and other engineers to leave for the City States.
    • The First Primal in Eorzea was supposedly summoned. Causing the Garleans to cease their advance into Eorzea.
    1564 --- The Amalj'aa Summon Ifrit at Mythril Pit T-3.
    1567 ---
    • The Sahagin become more aggressive and begin to attack.
    • Possibly the year that The Company of Heroes defeat Titan and Leviathan.
    1571 --- The Empire resumes the advance into Eorzea under Nael van Darnus' and the VIIth Legion.
    1572 --- The Present Day. Not going to list all the quests and happenings lol.

    Seventh Umbral Era
    1577 --- A Realm Reborn.


    And there we go. If anyone has anything else to add I'll edit and add it. I searched far and wide for every year or time period mentioned in npc dialogue and cutscenes. Hope you enjoy.

    Edit: If Ferne reads this I have a question about the First Astral. If the First Astral era was the first era, then the Sixth Umbral era would be the last if it goes with the Astral -> Umbral -> Astral -> Umbral formula. Am I correct to assume I was right about the time of the Twelve and the First Astral being 2 different time periods?
    Also when I was working on the Timeline and went with the Astral -> Umbral formula and instinctively put the Fifth Umbral -> Sixth Umbral in that order because I assumed if the Ice age melted, logically there would be major flooding. So I assumed if it started with Astral -> Umbral then this could be how the timelines added up. But Lore wise that's not how it works. No real question there just wanted to make the remark lol. Thanks Ferne or anyone else that reads this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NoloeTazier View Post
    If the First Astral era was the first era, then the Sixth Umbral era would be the last if it goes with the Astral -> Umbral -> Astral -> Umbral formula.
    No, I'm pretty sure you had it right in your timeline. It begins with the First Umbral Era because that was the turbulence that marked the end of the reign of gods. The next era was the First Astral Era because it was the first era that belonged to man. That's how I always understood it, at any rate.

    Quote Originally Posted by NoloeTazier View Post
    Also when I was working on the Timeline and went with the Astral -> Umbral formula and instinctively put the Fifth Umbral -> Sixth Umbral in that order because I assumed if the Ice age melted, logically there would be major flooding.
    Lewphon of Sharlayan wrote, "The Sixth Umbral Era belonged to the waters, as heavy rains fell and the seas rose high, submerging and cleansing all in a great deluge."


    On another note, actually his next sentence brings me to something I've been speculating about myself. "With time the waters receded, ushering in the present Sixth Astral Era, during which man has again rebuilt his halls and tilled his lands."

    I had been wondering if Umbral Eras are really short. Like, perhaps they end as soon as the disaster ends. In other words, I'm wondering if it'll even still be considered Umbral in 1577 or if just the destruction was considered the Umbral Age and we'll already be past that. Seems kind of short to be an "era" though. Perhaps it lasts until the water completely recedes, which in this case would be the defeat of Bahamut.
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