My heart just fell totally...

[Forgo]

Wow did get kinda....yeah when people started with the random dungeon thing *i was on Wow when that started >.>*
But i think Yoshi-P will be able to do it better since really its for NM fights and such but hey what i know i'm just a guy with a bag and things....

[VitoScaletta]

I love the cross servers dungeon finders! i cant wait to see xiv's in action. i was always one of the ones in XI that got tired of waiting for shouts or something to do and logged out.

its nice to see that is no longer an option!

[Genjuro]

You've also got to consider that FFXIV is still very community based. Even if "ass-hatery" takes places it only takes a few runs before your name starts to spread.

[Masamune1004]

Another case of "It could happen, therefore it happens 90% of the time." Moving along.

[IndigoDarkwolf]

I don't know what to say. In the final weeks of FFXIV 1.0, it took me two weeks to find groups and complete 3 GC quests. Everyone was busy with Garuda Hard, Moogle, or To Kill A Raven. I got more groups started out of sympathy from high-level players who'd see me shouting in Ul'Dah for an hour than from my LSes or other friends.

Was shouting in Ul'Dah for an hour fun? Not really, no.

Instead of pursuing White Ravens (or elemental gear that I would have needed to get White Ravens), once I finished Raven Easy, I went back and tried to help other players get through the GC questline. Because if I didn't, who would? It wasn't like I was going to afford the 21 mill a certain LS was asking for White Raven runs, anyways.

Really, being a latecomer sucks.

[Yelta_Sumasu]

While I have used cross server grouping in WoW and hated it with the fiery heat of a thousand white hot suns I will reserve judgement on FFXIV's system until I actually get to see it in action. Implementation is everything...

[MStowastiqVahlshdeh]

Well let's see here, you seem to be suffering tunnel vision so let me poke some holes in it.
- Looting will change as such you can't do ass-hattery
- Content will change, not everything will be X-Relm LFG
- You don't gather in a X-Relm LFG
- This option will help the new and old dog's meet and great
- We know very little as to what the actual plan is
- Don't use words like "we" to back up your opinion, i do not agree with a word you said.

Thank you, I was wondering why gathering would be in x-realm because outside of gathering in grand company quests, you don't need to wait for a party to gather...as far as i know.

I never tried Wow so I don't know how it is in the X-realm but I do recall the complaints about it, from watching Wow livestreamers use it. Only thing that it reminds me of is a gaming chat roulette lol. I think if it is awful, they will naturally accept our feedback and change it, like they have done so far.

-So it wont hurt us if we just wait and see. Nothing like example from trial and error to prove whether content is good or bad. It is definitely not something I will use but that is because I prefer parties with people I know and I have free time. It would be difficult for people who have little time, to find a party so I empathize.

[Siegtaru]

True, but that's simply assuming they're just scaling difficulty up or down. Who says they won't completely change the whole encounters.

Well, of course they're going to completely change entire chunks of content which previously existed in 1.x. They have to, considering the way battle and skill sets are going to heavily change, it wouldn't make sense to have encounters that worked in an entirely different version of a game in the new, overhauled product, as it was designed for the old one. The current Primal battles, for example, won't have the same mechanics I'm sure. If anything, I expect that they'll be able to implement mechanics that are more challenging and creative, that they weren't previously able to fathom putting into 1.x due to its "limitations" on many parts.

I can definitely imagine Ifrit Extreme being a fight that's heavily challenging, yet still very fun and defeatable with more than one contrived strategy and setup that's used to cope with horrible 1.x instability. I look forward to tackling that fight again in ARR and hopefuly not have something like server latency and luck play a role in the outcome.


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I misses you too Junpei! I always just assume you're sleeping because you're in such a different time zone lawl. I'll come hang soon and stuffs. I've been bored, quite obviously.

[IndigoDarkwolf]

Personally, I found my play experience on WoW was improved by the dungeon queue. It's true that I did run into several toxic players through it (mostly paladins who thought my resto druid should be able to flash heal for some bizarre reason), but it's hard to appropriately emphasize the value of experiencing "dated content". Being able to play through that content more than made up for the occasional jerk.

I can only hope that the re-launch will bring enough players in that player toxicity is a greater problem than having to shout in Ul'Dah for an hour at a time. Toxicity is a first-world problem: it means you're actually grouping with people for questing, those people are just being jerks.

If toxicity does become a problem, I would hope the devs look at League of Legends' Tribunal system, which records player chat logs and allows the community to flag consistently toxic players, with rewards for players who participate effectively. Riot Games has been extremely pleased by the results from the Tribunal. It seems that even in a purely competitive game like LoL there is a vast, overwhelming majority of players who just want to have fun and want others' to have fun, free from harassment and toxic behavior. Is harassment and toxicity gone? No. But it is much, much improved.

[Fossil924]

The Final Fantasy online games for the most part don't have alot of those clowns except when FFXI launched on the PS2 and later on the 360 we had an influx of them.but most didn't stay long.FFXIV will probably get the same on the PS3 release and alot of those whiners will leave after the 30 days free are up so i'm not worried!