Marriage feedback [inofficial Poll]

[Nix]

2 females can compete to be the "most romantic couple" in the 2012 valentione's day celebration. Condoning the romantic aspect of a gay couple has not been an issue at all from what I can tell. Its just the name. Marriage. If it exists, the question of whether it is MF or MM or FF or all 3 is the OP issue. Based on the votes so far, the odds are 4:1 supporting SSM.

If you want to rename it universally, and anyone regardless of race or gender can participate, that is an option I will not argue. What I do argue is whether "soul couple" or "spirit link" or whatever you call it in the end will be considered the equivalent of marriage, and if it is, what is the point of renaming it?

I support SSM, ingame or out.

The word 'marriage' has a stigma attached to it thanks to a lot of people in the world that deem it should be between a man and a woman only.

So taking the idea, the aspect of marriage and that partnership and naming it something else, even though in essence it's the same thing but includes same sex marriage is a way of shedding some of that stigma.
People could argue "Well it's marriage!" And it could be argued that no marriage exists in Eorzea, but handfasting or bonding instead, so they can keep their precious 'straight onry marriage' and cram it somewhere (politely, of course). To answer another part of your question; Yes, the new name would be the equivalent of marriage^^;


Now pair the rename with say... reworking what the bonding actually is - say for instance you leave it up to the player to define what their pact means to them - Whether it's friends swearing allegiance to eachother, or lovers taking vows, each ceremony could be the same regardless of what oath was being sworn, that could sidestep a lot more fallout too because then SE doesn't have to say "We're allowing SSM", they could say "We're allowing players to Bond, or show their allegiance to eachother." Again shedding the whole 'you're screwing with the sanctity of marriage' crap.


I'd love to see more ideas being pushed around guys! It'd be awesome if SE did read this and take note ;~;


Edit: on a re-read I didn't realize how harsh my post was sounding haha, maybe I need to sleep more and work less! My sincerest apologies if this offends anyone, totally not my intention. Have a great day!

[Colvin]

Wait wut? O.o
In all seriousness this sounds like a desperate cry to be accepted ,you don't need to get married to prove something . If i was you i would worry about this stuff in RL first before demanding a fake version of it in a MMO

Ok this is just not constructive. If it goes in this direction much longer, you will see this closed.

[Nix]

Wait wut? O.o
In all seriousness this sounds like a desperate cry to be accepted ,you don't need to get married to prove something . If i was you i would worry about this stuff in RL first before demanding a fake version of it in a MMO

It's nothing of the sort. Please stop making personal attacks Warlock, you've said your piece; we get it - You don't want marriage ingame, but it's being added anyway.

If you have nothing constructive to add here, please move along already. ><

/steak

[AmyNeudaiz]

Wait wut? O.o
In all seriousness this sounds like a desperate cry to be accepted ,you don't need to get married to prove something . If i was you i would worry about this stuff in RL first before demanding a fake version of it in a MMO

Why do you keep attacking peoples personal life?

[Colvin]

Yes, the new name would be the equivalent of marriage^^;

you know I'm with you onthis Nix.

[Nix]

you know I'm with you onthis Nix.

^0^ Thanks Colvin!

I have thoroughly enjoyed your posts in this thread also, you've got some great ideas and you're also very good at staying diplomatic which is also very cool lol♪


Big thank you to everyone who's been sharing ideas thus far, it's really refreshing to see so many people working together!

[Keisuna]

Wait wut? O.o
In all seriousness this sounds like a desperate cry to be accepted ,you don't need to get married to prove something . If i was you i would worry about this stuff in RL first before demanding a fake version of it in a MMO

I already do worry about IRL marriage, actually, and I've already made my case in this thread for why the way SE deals with the marriage issue is important in real life. (Yes, issues that are addressed in our entertainment can influence our perception of reality.)

If you'd like to see it you can go back and look for it (I'd say about page 70 or so), but I really would rather not waste time explaining my position to you when you confuse "raising a steed in real life" and "raising a chocobo in real life". No offense, but if you can't be bothered to read the whole sentence, I don't see our conversation going very far.

[Warlock]

It's nothing of the sort. Please stop making personal attacks Warlock, you've said your piece; we get it - You don't want marriage ingame, but it's being added anyway.

If you have nothing constructive to add here, please move along already. ><

/steak

I'm just gonna say this. Seems like i can't express my opinion on this matter as long as it is against it and multiple times i have been told "It will be added anyway, nothing you can do" yet the development team already took a decision about how the animations will be in ARR and they confirmed this decision with a rep response yet plenty of people wont accept it and wont shut up about it till they see it changed. See how you are biased here? that's all i had to say.

[Nix]

I'm just gonna say this. Seems like i can't express my opinion on this matter as long as it is against it and multiple times i have been told "It will be added anyway, nothing you can do" yet the development team already took a decision about how the animations will be in ARR and they confirmed this decision with a rep response yet plenty of people wont accept it and wont shut up about it till they see it changed. See how you are biased here? that's all i had to say.

I'm not biased on it whatsoever, you're welcome to your opinion, but as the first post/topic of this thread states; it's not 'should marriage be in the game' but 'should same sex marriage be in the game', so your posts aside from being inflammatory are also offtopic.
You are welcome to make a thread asking people if they want marriage in the game or not, but here (in this thread) is not the place to air your grievances about it.

[Duuude007]

I'm not biased on it whatsoever, you're welcome to your opinion, but as this thread title states; it's not 'should marriage be in the game' but 'should same sex marriage be in the game', so your posts aside from being inflammatory are also offtopic.
You are welcome to make a thread asking people if they want marriage in the game or not, but here (in this thread) is not the place to air your grievances about it.

Thank you for overtly stating that what Warlock is sharing, while potentially worthy of being another topic, it is a distraction from the OP topic.

No more off-topic, please.