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    For heterosexual it just natural to be attracted to opposite gender so when we see the opposite for us it seem unnatural or confusing to us to understand why and of course homosexual have what they consider natural who to say either side is bad. My rule is for my gay friend they no im striaght so they don't hit on me or anything and they let there friends no if out in town or anything but I don't go into gay bars or anything just rule of mine but they don't hold it against me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SedoSan View Post
    someone might like killing (Dexter :P), but does it make it right?
    to most of us killing (just for fun or whatever sick idea) is wrong, but to some its right,

    I'm glad SE forced real life morality

    Your argument goes from nihilism to talking about ethics and morality

    /nod

    What's even going on inside of that head of yours kiddo?
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    Last edited by DubstepNinja; 11-20-2012 at 05:45 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SedoSan View Post
    Just like you called me an ignorant I can easily call you an ignorant for supporting SSM, still a poor argument, I'm glad SE forced real life morality

    While SSM in game has no direct effects in game, it can actually cause hidden society problems later, people just want what they want without thinking of the consequences and say let others deal with it. you're all just ignorant without knowing so, I'm sure none of you was born from a gay couple. and those who have a gay couple parents, what are their fault for not having a mother, or a father(in case of 2 mothers)? you are denying them a normal life. You know that if this continue on, the population will decrease?
    What about all the children that were thrown away because they were the result of an unprotected sex? what was their fault? you'll tell me their parent's fault? they should have not had unprotected sex? what if they were under the influence of alcohol? you will say they shouldn't be drinking much? These things happen, do you know why? because alcohol and pre-marriage sex are legal. you're not one to talk about morality or whats right and wrong.
    I never drank alcohol nor ever had pre-marriage sex, I'm 25 years old and I'm happily married and expecting my first born.

    So lets just ignore all that rubbish about pre-marital sex and alcohol as it has nothing to do with the topic. I'm not sure why you bring gay adoption into this, it's a different matter. (There is an argument at least against gay adoption, though I think the positives outweigh the negatives)

    Your only argument appears to be that it will lower the population.

    My question is how this will happen and why it's a bad thing?

    Firstly birth rates and survival rates are good, this is with homosexuality allowed. Secondly, Earth is already overpopulated and it will get worse in the future. Even if homosexuality did decrease the population (hint: it never will) it would not be bad thing.

    Your arguments are terrible, just be honest and say the only objection you have is you find it unnatural.


    I really am concerned with SE's naivety on this. It shows bad judgement to encourage this kind of debate and it's undoing some of the goodwill that was received from the final trailer.
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    Last edited by inrainbows; 11-20-2012 at 06:22 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SedoSan View Post
    Actually its level 46 not sure why it isn't updated but thats beside the point.
    someone might like killing (Dexter :P), but does it make it right?
    to most of us killing (just for fun or whatever sick idea) is wrong, but to some its right,
    SSM to me is wrong, and to most normal people, to you, I dunno, this generation is weird



    everything has 2 sides, to you its perfectly fine, to others its not fine at all, how would you put logic into opinions? Red is the best color, while you argue blue is, your argument can go both ways so don't you it as an argument



    I have a life -_-;



    I'm sorry your post was too dumb to understand. your post is bad and you should feel bad.



    Just like you called me an ignorant I can easily call you an ignorant for supporting SSM, still a poor argument, I'm glad SE forced real life morality

    While SSM in game has no direct effects in game, it can actually cause hidden society problems later, people just want what they want without thinking of the consequences and say let others deal with it. you're all just ignorant without knowing so, I'm sure none of you was born from a gay couple. and those who have a gay couple parents, what are their fault for not having a mother, or a father(in case of 2 mothers)? you are denying them a normal life. You know that if this continue on, the population will decrease?
    What about all the children that were thrown away because they were the result of an unprotected sex? what was their fault? you'll tell me their parent's fault? they should have not had unprotected sex? what if they were under the influence of alcohol? you will say they shouldn't be drinking much? These things happen, do you know why? because alcohol and pre-marriage sex are legal. you're not one to talk about morality or whats right and wrong.
    I never drank alcohol nor ever had pre-marriage sex, I'm 25 years old and I'm happily married and expecting my first born.

    Spouting straight edge morals and facts with no citations does not make a person sound like a rhodes scholar, just some one that seems to lack objectivity.

    Getting back to the topic at hand and looking at the polls (ENG/JP) , it is safe to say the majority of players there does want ssm. I dont have a clue on the other forums though and it would be nice if some lovely individual could tells us whats the latest gossip there :3
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    Last edited by Gugnir; 11-20-2012 at 09:11 PM.

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    You're using "normality" (whatever that means) as an argument while describing your own life that for most of people isn't normal at all. You seem to live in your own small bubble thinking there's only one way to live your (family) life "right". Well, there isn't. But this is not meant as an personal attack nor does it have anything to do with this topic so let's keep the thread on tracks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taika View Post
    You're using "normality" (whatever that means) as an argument while describing your own life that for most of people isn't normal at all. You seem to live in your own small bubble thinking there's only one way to live your (family) life "right". Well, there isn't. But this is not meant as an personal attack nor does it have anything to do with this topic so let's keep the thread on tracks.
    you can go back into topic, all what I meant with my first post is that this thread is useless, will take you nowhere. And suddenly everyone turned against me, lol. it was quite amusing to be honest but whatever, I'm just stating the obvious.

    Take care ya'all now
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    Quote Originally Posted by SedoSan View Post
    you can go back into topic, all what I meant with my first post is that this thread is useless, will take you nowhere. And suddenly everyone turned against me, lol. it was quite amusing to be honest but whatever, I'm just stating the obvious.

    Take care ya'all now
    To turn against you your implying I stood with you at one point..

    Its just digital avatars.. let people do as they please without trying to make it a "morality" issue.. its a game NOT real-life. And I dont need an excuse to play a female char.. I prefer looking a female for countless hours rather then a guy.. my choice but to those who are gay/lesbian who am I nor anyone else to say whats right or wrong. I know several homosexual people in this game and they have never hindered my experience in any way. Most are some of the nicest and helpful people in the community.. so I vote for SSM
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    Last edited by elets; 11-20-2012 at 05:49 PM.

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    I'm sorry, I still have to say one thing!
    Quote Originally Posted by SedoSan View Post
    And suddenly everyone turned against me, lol.
    That's because your posts (especially the first one) were offensive. You can't really call people and / or their relationships (either irl or ig) "gross" and expect them to just stay quiet - you wouldn't either, most likely. :P
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    For the love of all that's good, what the hell happened from last i left and now?! How did you guys go from should a Mithra (F) and a Mithra (F) be able to get hitched in front of an alter in the forest to reproduction? I think we need a time out to rethink the argument.
    Q: Should should same gander pixels be allowed to get married!

    @Warlock, don't worry am fairly used to the knife to throat deal, as my opinion is based on the views of the 2 continents i have lived on. So i try to stay neutral, but people see it if your not with, your against. vb
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    Quote Originally Posted by Twiddle View Post
    For the love of all that's good, what the hell happened from last i left and now?! How did you guys go from should a Mithra (F) and a Mithra (F) be able to get hitched in front of an alter in the forest to reproduction? I think we need a time out to rethink the argument.
    Q: Should should same gander pixels be allowed to get married!
    Agreed. The issue at hand is whether or not same sex marriage should be allowed in Eorzea. Reproduction, and all things associated with it, has absolutely no bearing in this particular discussion.
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    Last edited by Arcell; 11-21-2012 at 12:06 AM.

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