Marriage feedback [inofficial Poll]

[Keisuna]

Just to address all of those who are saying "stop talking about this, it's a game, no one cares if you're allowed to marry!"...

While I agree that allowing or disallowing gay marriage will not directly in and of itself affect anything in "real life", I cannot say it will have no affect on the people who play the game— and not just gay people being offended because they can't seem to escape discrimination, even in an escapist fantasy.

Whether we like it or not, our entertainment can often influence our decisions and opinions of things we see in real life. As a gay rights activist, the problem has rarely been in making a logical case for gay marriage. We win pretty much every debate we get into, any outside observer could clearly see that.

No, the biggest problem is fighting the stigma that gays and gay marriage is weird and unfamiliar. Most people aren't against gay marriage because of any strong opinions, but because for decades gays have been portrayed as pedophiles, as diseased sexual vagrants, or as people who are just confused about who they are and need help from a higher power.

That stigmatization has a lasting effect on people, and very often the only way to combat it is letting them get used to gay people, and see for themselves that the stigma is wrong. Often it only takes having gay marriage legalized in your area for people to realize that gay marriage doesn't bring about a dystopian world where people run around in the streets buck naked and rape anyone who passes by.

If SE bans gay marriage in game, it could reinforce the idea that gay marriage is strange and foreign, not just to the people who play the game, but to anyone else who sees the developers of yet another MMO that won't allow gay marriage in their game.

[Nix]

Let's call it SPIRITBONDING!!!

....owait.

Haha! Only if when someone gets divorced they can turn their house and car into materia e_e

[Keisuna]

Of course, since people want 'gay' marriage, I assume polygamy is also wanted, because no one's asking for just 'their' pet likes to be implemented, are they. Polygamy is practiced in many parts of the real world.

I doubt however the pro-gays will be pushing for that social variant though.

I know plenty of people who are fighting for polyamory, and I tell them all the same thing: You need to make your own argument for having more than one spouse, because you'll not have any success piggybacking on gay marriage.

First of all, the argument for gay marriage is largely based on homosexuality being an immutable trait (meaning that it's something people can't change), there's nothing immutable about wanting more than one spouse.

As far as in-game polyamory goes, I don't know how they'd implement it (seeing as how we don't know what in-game marriage entails), but doing so may require more work and more headache than they're willing to go through. If you already have a mechanic in the game for two people to marry, allowing gay marriage is as easy as deleting a line of code. Making it possible to have multiple spouses, however, is a different animal entirely.

I think it'd be interesting to have the option, though. I'm not opposed to polyamory in real life or in-game, so long as there's a system in place that allows it to work, although I very much pity anyone who might eventually find themselves having to go through divorce with multiple spouses at once.

[Kerwin]

XI didn't have it. XIV wont either.

Woo hoo! /thread

[Geesus]

Offtopic maybe? But I got sent this link by a gay friend of mine this morning, I figure it's a bit light hearted and something some would find amusing.


(Also a great reason to allow SSM! haha)

clicky!

LMFAO! We watched this at work 2 days ago. Was funny as hell. xD

[Reika]

XI didn't have it. XIV wont either.

Woo hoo! /thread

more like /madefoolofselflikesomeothers

XI didn't have Materia either.

[Fylion]

Let's call it SPIRITBONDING!!!

....owait.

This is my favorite. Would give a whole new dimension to what is currently materia crafting.

"Honey, want to do some spiritbonding tonight?"

"Sure, just let me get some subligar crafted and we'll be all set."

[Terri]

I heard something on the radio today, and thought I'd share it. I don't know if this was posted but like hell I'm reading 86 pages. I read up to 30 and stopped cause of people just whining for Yoshi-P to add it and nobody realizing that even now STILL its a TOUCHY issue and a PR nightmare for such a large company.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_ri...y_or_territory

Here. Read the page, look at the charts. This is enough to make them not want to implement it and have to deal with a lot of bull from other countries. It's not even recognized in Japan, just not illegal ( heck much of the USA still doesn't even recognize it). They just wanna add something for fun and people cry cause they think they're being left out, when they don't realize all the crap SE could possibly get to make a small % of the player base happy, since we can only see the number of likes supporting it in this thread. Plus, they aren't exactly "restricting" it between real LGBT couples since you are free to choose a gender (and now re-choose) that isn't your own anyway. So if it matters that much just change. Don't make them ruin something fun for something you know is still a very delicate subject.

And for the record, I have nothing against LGBT couples, and have many friends who are homosexual or transgender. I just am tired of seeing people pull the discrimination card for something like marriage in a video game.

[Nix]

LMFAO! We watched this at work 2 days ago. Was funny as hell. xD

XD I'm glad you liked it! haha, I showed it to my husband after my gay friend showed it to me and I'm like
"Sorry T, I'm gonna go marry Brodie. Atleast he'll make me a mother f***ing quiche!"

[Kerwin]

more like /madefoolofselflikesomeothers

XI didn't have Materia either.

Please stay mad.