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  1. #831
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    Quote Originally Posted by Twiddle View Post
    If a person, feels hurt do to rules and boundaries set IN A VIDEO GAME, than that person may need to adders bigger issues in there life. Which are in no turn related to said VIDEO GAME. Yoshi-P has bigger fish to fry then this.. He does NOT owe you an reason, or options, or anything, stay if you like, go if you don't...
    As well there's zero you can do one way or another, AS WELL considering it "doesn't actually negatively affect me at all" (your words). Why do you even give a damn.

    All you are doing is giving good people a bad side, so for the preservation of the peace mod's should lock AND remove this and any subsequent threads relating to this.
    There are reasons the LGBT members have been fairly prevalent in this subject... Specificaly in relation to restrictions and promises. When DOMA was created we were told "Hey we're going to define marriage in the constitution... but... in return we will give you all something with the same rights and a different name " there were some of us who said NO we want marriage... a lot of us viewed them as insane... Then the giant maw of DOMA snapped shut and we waited for our equivalent option... a legal version of marriage... Honestly, it didn't come. It Never did. I work as a some what junior counselor for my colleges LGBT Resource center. I normally have to council suicidal LGBT students most often because their parents kicked them out. One case though brought this to a furious subject to me. A couple was married in New York and (as advertised) Florida was offering LGBT Honeymoon get aways, the marriage isn't legal here however. They had their honeymoon here because they were both going to attend my college. I had to counsel him through something I should not have had to counsel. His husband was hit by a car, the ambulance took him to a religious based hospital, and he wasn't aloud to see his husband at all because he was not direct family or a spouse.
    It was broken promises that led to the attitude of a push for marriage, not being able to see our spouses final moments is a cruel fate... it's like a parent dying and not getting to say a last I love you or goodbye.
    So, I apologize that this topic has been so... urged upon, in this forum however, this attitude was born from a broken promise. If you dislike the topic, leave it. don't read it. NO ONE IS FORCING YOU TO CLICK THE LINK. Your hand in fact is clicking that link.
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  2. #832
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    Quote Originally Posted by Twiddle View Post
    If a person, feels hurt do to rules and boundaries set IN A VIDEO GAME, than that person may need to adders bigger issues in there life. Which are in no turn related to said VIDEO GAME. Yoshi-P has bigger fish to fry then this.. He does NOT owe you an reason, or options, or anything, stay if you like, go if you don't...
    As well there's zero you can do one way or another, AS WELL considering it "doesn't actually negatively affect me at all" (your words). Why do you even give a damn.

    All you are doing is giving good people a bad side, so for the preservation of the peace mod's should lock AND remove this and any subsequent threads relating to this.
    By hurt I didn't mean actually hurt, I just meant negatively affected (as in being told they're not allowed to use a feature of the game they're paying for.)

    If it doesn't actually negatively affect me at all why do I care? Because I don't see it as fair to allow some people to use a feature of a game and others not just because of their character's genders. Because I care about people other than myself and I can see why they should be allowed to do this. I will still be able to use the marriage feature but others won't and that doesn't sit right with me.

    He doesn't owe me anything you're right, however I would appreciate it if he did give us something. He's been very open and vocal with the community so I hope that continues with this issue as well as others. I've never said that he must give us a response, I only ask.

    Giving good people a bad side? On this forum? Lol. All I'm doing is speaking up for marriage equality. Nothing more, nothing less. There are far worse threads on these forums that have been allowed to stay open. I don't think this one is threatening to destroy the "peace" on the forums. Let the mods decide if they should lock this or not, you aren't one so you have no say in the matter.
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  3. #833
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    Quote Originally Posted by Twiddle View Post
    People need to stop with all this high horse crap, considering from the people here 2 in 100 will bother to do in game marriage.. if even.
    I can think of more than 2/100 who would marry!

    For those complaining about this thread's existence: Yoshi-P did ask for our feedback on the subject. If you have nothing intelligent to add to this conversation I'm sure there's a MLP thread somewhere that needs necro-ing D:
    There's no 'high-horsing' or even complaining, we're trying to work together to find a solution that would work for everyone.
    You're welcome to help us find that solution but if not, then you know where you can put your energies instead.

    Also; Good morning everyone! Where's the coffee? X_x
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    Last edited by Nix; 11-16-2012 at 02:31 AM.

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  4. #834
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nix View Post
    I can think of more than 2/100 who would marry!

    For those complaining about this thread's existence: Yoshi-P did ask for our feedback on the subject. If you have nothing intelligent to add to this conversation I'm sure there's a MLP thread somewhere that needs necro-ing D:
    There's no 'high-horsing' or even complaining, we're trying to work together to find a solution that would work for everyone.
    You're welcome to help us find that solution but if not, then you know where you can put your energies instead.

    Also; Good morning everyone! Where's the coffee? X_x
    Well that works too, help to find a solution... three options exist no more no less.

    Yes to same-sex
    No to same-sex
    No marriage regardless of gender

    My 2c are on the last one. Reasoning the playing field will remain even. No one can get upset, no one is singled out. This way the dev. team can focus on game content, game development, game stability. People want fair, well that's fair.
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  5. #835
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    Quote Originally Posted by Twiddle View Post
    Well that works too, help to find a solution... three options exist no more no less.

    Yes to same-sex
    No to same-sex
    No marriage regardless of gender

    My 2c are on the last one. Reasoning the playing field will remain even. No one can get upset, no one is singled out. This way the dev. team can focus on game content, game development, game stability. People want fair, well that's fair.
    The last one is already ruled out. They are adding in marriage and a chapel to do so in. Not to have it is limiting the MMO gaming world. Various MMO's have marriage and marriage attire in their games.

    Those are very limited options in any case. The actual best option is no GM sponsering of marriage. Adding in of items ether purchased from NPC's or crafted (going with crafted for the signatures) and player hosted weddings. With this, SE needs not take any stance on the SSM issue.
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    Last edited by Reika; 11-16-2012 at 02:50 AM.

  6. #836
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    They should add a divorce court as well because you look at the statistics marriages don't last very long know and days on either side make sure to make it expensive as hell to so have a realistic feel to it as well.

    Also on serious note yoshiP also has to consider other countries besides US/Canada add if i miss someone. Were giving feed back but other countries opinions on this is just as important as any of ours disliking or not it were it stands at.
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    Last edited by odintius; 11-16-2012 at 02:53 AM.

  7. #837
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    I'd be for no marriage also. It is pointless in a video game.
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  8. #838
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    Quote Originally Posted by Twiddle View Post
    Well that works too, help to find a solution... three options exist no more no less.
    There's a few more options if you think on this a little more.

    Clickeeeeet!

    Others ideas have been posted too, such as Reika's Player-run weddings for example.
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    Last edited by Nix; 11-16-2012 at 03:04 AM.

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  9. #839
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    Quote Originally Posted by Serdapi View Post
    I'd be for no marriage also. It is pointless in a video game.
    It's being added anyway, as stated by Yoshi-P. It may be pointless to you but there are many others who would welcome it.
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    Act in such a way that you treat humanity, whether in your own person or in the person of another, always at the same time as an end and never simply as a means

  10. #840
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reika View Post
    The last one is already ruled out. They are adding in marriage and a chapel to do so in. Not to have it is limiting the MMO gaming world. Various MMO's have marriage and marriage attire in their games.

    Those are very limited options in any case. The actual best option is no GM sponsering of marriage. Adding in of items ether purchased from NPC's or crafted (going with crafted for the signatures) and player hosted weddings. With this, SE needs not take any stance on the SSM issue.
    Well then i think your debate rather well solves it self. If you look at it either every one can or no one can. And seeing as the "no one can" option falls out what are you left with? Make it available to every one... you wanted a solution there you go. Any one not on a high horse, possessing an open mind would not object. People who want it will be happy. People with the mind set of the inquisition can deal with it. See that was not so hard.
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