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  1. #821
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    well, sorry.
    i just wanted to know if i could find some fellow travelers here in the gay community for the PMM -
    the Polygamists Marriage Movement.

    doesn't look good so far tho. :/
    considering an extra thread.
    i mean i could imagine some people agreeing on a marriage with 3 Mi'qote =o



    w/e, gl with your request guys =)
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  2. #822
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    Louisoux wanted to save Eorzea, all of it. Not some part of it. You think he was hemming and hawing over the pirates of Limsa raking part in the operations? Or the money grubbing bankers of Uldah?

    I'm pretty sure our lives being saved does not turn into some mandate to reproduce incessantly for all the npcs that were lost, except for the most crackpot of folk.

    Besides, what context does that have on us as players? None!
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  3. #823
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    Marriage equality all the way!!!
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  4. #824
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    Getting back to my train of though!

    What difference does this make? Something is telling me people are forgetting that "HOLY COW" this is a "GAME", and should be as far removed from the issues from day to day in the "OMG" real world as possible. In 2.0 if you are "THAT" happy go lucky wanting to get married, when we are remaking characters simply make a character "compatible" with the character you want to get married to. Case solved.

    If SE have any sense, they will make the entire thing for "show" only granting no special treatment to people who do go through the procedure. Looping to my previous post of signed rings... There's a strong need for people to stop making a molehill in to a mountain. Anything in game is simply that, in game fun... you'll not have kinds in game, or adopt. You were not saved by Louisoix to procreate... more so to take revenge on the being that just distorted your (in game) home in the span on 2min!

    People need to stop with all this high horse crap, considering from the people here 2 in 100 will bother to do in game marriage.. if even.
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  5. #825
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    This whole topic makes me think of one thing. Monty Python.


    "Help, Help, I'm being repressed" (in a video game)

    Sounds kinda stupid doesn't it? That's because it is. I hope SE changes it so anybody can marry but not because of any of the reason given in this thread.

    I feel this topic came from a gay community that is on the hot topic of gay marriage in real life. They feel repressed in real life so when they are "escaping" real life by playing an MMO and they see that an issue that is a hot topic for them in real life matches in an MMO they take to arms on that topic too.

    Again I hope SE lets anybody marry anybody. I hope that the marriage in the game is just a silly ceremony and thats it. No extra benefits.

    This is why it's stupid for SE to stop it because its a FAKE marriage in a video game. It means absolutely nothing. The fact that somebody is trying to restrict an act that means nothing in a video game is stupid. Then again I think that the fact that people are fighting for something soooooo trivial is funny. If people in this thread took the same activism to write your congress, hold rallies, and be more active in the real life community then maybe you'd change things instead of complaining about a video game.

    If you changed society views on marriage first, then video games would follow suit. So please stop complaining about a video game that will change nothing and will mean nothing if you do marry in it.

    for the trolls

    Pro Gay Marriage - IRL
    Anti-Complaining about Gay Marriage - in a video game

    Lastly, please bring on the people that will feel hurt by this post. I won't be reading this topic anymore because the amount of butt-hurt (pun intended) people about something so pointless is ridiculous. If this was a forum on something that mattered like a vote, a rally, a real life matter, then and only then would it mean something.

    So any of you that think that if you change something in this game you'll feel better or get to "pretend marry". Go to a park, dress up, same some silly words, and kiss because that would be more real than what you're fighting for here.

    Edit post: High five Twiddle
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  6. #826
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    Quote Originally Posted by odintius View Post
    Really don't care if they do or not do same gender marriage, but I also think if the company doesn't want it that there choice and people lgbt should respect that. That also is true for straight people if the company supports lgbt then we should respect that choice both sides have to respect each other's views I no that hard in today's world though can thank the mass media imo. Be thankful your not living in other countries they would burn you alive over there you have it allot better here if the argument is over marriage over a mmo game.

    That post was on page 33 >.> for the love of god lol...
    If Yoshida gives us a response that he's seen the player demand and considered the alternative options and he still won't do it then I'll deal with it. I mean it doesn't actually negatively affect me at all, I'm just here for those who it will hurt. I mean it's his game and if he really feels that he doesn't want to or can't remove the restriction then I'll keep playing but I'll be a bit disappointed.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kraggy View Post
    Of course, since people want 'gay' marriage, I assume polygamy is also wanted, because no one's asking for just 'their' pet likes to be implemented, are they. Polygamy is practiced in many parts of the real world.

    I doubt however the pro-gays will be pushing for that social variant though.
    Create your own topic then. This thread was created for marriage feedback in relation to the same sex marriage restriction. The title simply says marriage feedback but the OP and poll posts are strictly about the restriction. If you actually feel that this should be added, no one is stopping you from creating your own thread.
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  7. #827
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    Quote Originally Posted by Serdapi View Post
    This whole topic makes me think of one thing. Monty Python.


    "Help, Help, I'm being repressed" (in a video game)

    Sounds kinda stupid doesn't it? That's because it is. I hope SE changes it so anybody can marry but not because of any of the reason given in this thread.

    I feel this topic came from a gay community that is on the hot topic of gay marriage in real life. They feel repressed in real life so when they are "escaping" real life by playing an MMO and they see that an issue that is a hot topic for them in real life matches in an MMO they take to arms on that topic too.

    Again I hope SE lets anybody marry anybody. I hope that the marriage in the game is just a silly ceremony and thats it. No extra benefits.

    This is why it's stupid for SE to stop it because its a FAKE marriage in a video game. It means absolutely nothing. The fact that somebody is trying to restrict an act that means nothing in a video game is stupid. Then again I think that the fact that people are fighting for something soooooo trivial is funny. If people in this thread took the same activism to write your congress, hold rallies, and be more active in the real life community then maybe you'd change things instead of complaining about a video game.

    If you changed society views on marriage first, then video games would follow suit. So please stop complaining about a video game that will change nothing and will mean nothing if you do marry in it.

    for the trolls

    Pro Gay Marriage - IRL
    Anti-Complaining about Gay Marriage - in a video game

    Lastly, please bring on the people that will feel hurt by this post. I won't be reading this topic anymore because the amount of butt-hurt (pun intended) people about something so pointless is ridiculous. If this was a forum on something that mattered like a vote, a rally, a real life matter, then and only then would it mean something.

    So any of you that think that if you change something in this game you'll feel better or get to "pretend marry". Go to a park, dress up, same some silly words, and kiss because that would be more real than what you're fighting for here.

    Edit post: High five Twiddle
    It's already been mentioned in the thread that the 2 people getting married dont even have to be gay, or the same sex, in real life. One man and one woman both playing the same gender character. Nothing to do with what they are in RL.
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  8. #828
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    Quote Originally Posted by Serdapi View Post
    This whole topic makes me think of one thing. Monty Python.


    "Help, Help, I'm being repressed" (in a video game)

    Sounds kinda stupid doesn't it? That's because it is. I hope SE changes it so anybody can marry but not because of any of the reason given in this thread.

    I feel this topic came from a gay community that is on the hot topic of gay marriage in real life. They feel repressed in real life so when they are "escaping" real life by playing an MMO and they see that an issue that is a hot topic for them in real life matches in an MMO they take to arms on that topic too.

    Again I hope SE lets anybody marry anybody. I hope that the marriage in the game is just a silly ceremony and thats it. No extra benefits.

    This is why it's stupid for SE to stop it because its a FAKE marriage in a video game. It means absolutely nothing. The fact that somebody is trying to restrict an act that means nothing in a video game is stupid. Then again I think that the fact that people are fighting for something soooooo trivial is funny. If people in this thread took the same activism to write your congress, hold rallies, and be more active in the real life community then maybe you'd change things instead of complaining about a video game.

    If you changed society views on marriage first, then video games would follow suit. So please stop complaining about a video game that will change nothing and will mean nothing if you do marry in it.

    for the trolls

    Pro Gay Marriage - IRL
    Anti-Complaining about Gay Marriage - in a video game

    Lastly, please bring on the people that will feel hurt by this post. I won't be reading this topic anymore because the amount of butt-hurt (pun intended) people about something so pointless is ridiculous. If this was a forum on something that mattered like a vote, a rally, a real life matter, then and only then would it mean something.

    So any of you that think that if you change something in this game you'll feel better or get to "pretend marry". Go to a park, dress up, same some silly words, and kiss because that would be more real than what you're fighting for here.

    Edit post: High five Twiddle

    Just to add to that top part. I'm hetrosexual and this is a big topic for myself as well (pro homosexual rights (I dont even have any real life homosexual friends - its just the right thing to do)).

    I can get players not wanting to bicker in their video game time (who wants to bitch when they could play) but luckily these are the forums and not the game so bitching is great here ^_^ lol

    Also am disappointed in SE for even having to ask about this issue - they have quite a few "highly" insinuated pro "gay" / gay comedy in their games and its always my passion to see gaming companies lead the progressive pack (great devs dont only make a great game, they make a great statements - depressed SE has to ask if they should make a statement).

    Besides in this case it would probably have largely gone on unnoticed - most of the ingame SSM would have been SM in real life, instead now we got anti-gay rights and the other silly events like: "I dont want you and your wife marrying because you are both males in game - if you dont play your real life gender you must be punished".
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    Last edited by Shougun; 11-16-2012 at 01:54 AM.

  9. #829
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    Quote Originally Posted by Twiddle View Post
    Getting back to my train of though!

    What difference does this make? Something is telling me people are forgetting that "HOLY COW" this is a "GAME", and should be as far removed from the issues from day to day in the "OMG" real world as possible. In 2.0 if you are "THAT" happy go lucky wanting to get married, when we are remaking characters simply make a character "compatible" with the character you want to get married to. Case solved.
    It's a way around the issue but it doesn't really solve anything. It's like saying "Well if two men want to get married, one of you should have a sex change operation so you can do so!" Also what if they don't want to get married at launch but later in the game they find someone who they want to marry but is of the same gender? Can't remake your character again (that we know of).

    Quote Originally Posted by Twiddle View Post
    If SE have any sense, they will make the entire thing for "show" only granting no special treatment to people who do go through the procedure. Looping to my previous post of signed rings... There's a strong need for people to stop making a molehill in to a mountain. Anything in game is simply that, in game fun... you'll not have kinds in game, or adopt. You were not saved by Louisoix to procreate... more so to take revenge on the being that just distorted your (in game) home in the span on 2min!

    People need to stop with all this high horse crap, considering from the people here 2 in 100 will bother to do in game marriage.. if even.
    I agree that it should be simply a "for show" kind of thing. However you, along with a lot of other people somehow, don't quite understand the argument. This isn't about marriage in general. That's being implemented, no doubt. The issue I have at least, is that it is being restricted. Not all players will be able to use this feature. It's unfair to a number of their paying customers. They're being told "Sorry, your character genders are the same so you can't use this feature." It should be for fun yeah but everyone should be able to partake in that fun.
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  10. #830
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcell View Post
    If Yoshida gives us a response that he's seen the player demand and considered the alternative options and he still won't do it then I'll deal with it. I mean it doesn't actually negatively affect me at all, I'm just here for those who it will hurt. I mean it's his game and if he really feels that he doesn't want to or can't remove the restriction then I'll keep playing but I'll be a bit disappointed.
    If a person, feels hurt do to rules and boundaries set IN A VIDEO GAME, than that person may need to adders bigger issues in there life. Which are in no turn related to said VIDEO GAME. Yoshi-P has bigger fish to fry then this.. He does NOT owe you an reason, or options, or anything, stay if you like, go if you don't...
    As well there's zero you can do one way or another, AS WELL considering it "doesn't actually negatively affect me at all" (your words). Why do you even give a damn.

    All you are doing is giving good people a bad side, so for the preservation of the peace mod's should lock AND remove this and any subsequent threads relating to this.
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