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    I fully agree that a new term should be used when referring to the emotions, feelings, love 2 people have for each other regardless of the gender. As the word marriage (like stated above) is a term used to "bond" 2 people of opposite genders together for means of procreation and (like stated above) many times be it in past or present the ritual of said word is done do to necessity than actual love between 2 people.

    Thing is and this is the hard part the term used needs to be "new". As union, bond, partner ship, exe, are far to closely intertwined with the word marriage. In the last 10 years i have been to ~50 weddings, and soon will attend my own (none of which are, were SS). And nearly all terms we are using now are used when 2 people speak vows.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Twiddle View Post
    Thing is and this is the hard part the term used needs to be "new". As union, bond, partner ship, exe, are far to closely intertwined with the word marriage. In the last 10 years i have been to ~50 weddings, and soon will attend my own (none of which are, were SS). And nearly all terms we are using now are used when 2 people speak vows.
    I agree that it is difficult but I think that this kind of thinking is really the way forward to both sides both in game and out. It has to start somewhere!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Twiddle View Post
    I fully agree that a new term should be used when referring to the emotions, feelings, love 2 people have for each other regardless of the gender. As the word marriage (like stated above) is a term used to "bond" 2 people of opposite genders together for means of procreation and (like stated above) many times be it in past or present the ritual of said word is done do to necessity than actual love between 2 people.

    Thing is and this is the hard part the term used needs to be "new". As union, bond, partner ship, exe, are far to closely intertwined with the word marriage. In the last 10 years i have been to ~50 weddings, and soon will attend my own (none of which are, were SS). And nearly all terms we are using now are used when 2 people speak vows.
    As for names, I've seen:
    Bonding, Soulbond, Pairing, Pact come up, I mentioned handfasting (Which if memory serves me well originated in ancient Europe and involved tying the hands of the couple together to show a permanent bond)

    I'm totally open to new name ideas, feel free to think of some if you can and add them to this thread!

    Also good luck on your r/l wedding Twiddle!
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    Add a disciple of faith class can join any players in bonding at level 50 >.> just wondering :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by odintius View Post
    Add a disciple of faith class can join any players in bonding at level 50 >.> just wondering :P
    Haha that would be awesome!
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    I am against using the word partner for calling your bonded other half. Mainly because when you hear the word partner in RL, everyone automatically assumes a buisness partner, and then there's an awkward silence as you explain what you mean by that.

    No one is confused by the words husband or wife, which is why if we have a different word for calling your other half, it should be something entirely new or descriptive enough that people don't get tripped over what your using the word for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Psion View Post
    I am against using the word partner for calling your bonded other half. Mainly because when you hear the word partner in RL, everyone automatically assumes a buisness partner, and then there's an awkward silence as you explain what you mean by that.

    No one is confused by the words husband or wife, which is why if we have a different word for calling your other half, it should be something entirely new or descriptive enough that people don't get tripped over what your using the word for.
    I've never had that problem D: ... It's a pretty common term.

    As for the husband/wife thing, I'm not entirely sure what word you could use that signifies 'unity' while sidestepping the stigma of marriage.

    Partner / Bonded partner pretty much summed it up, though if they picked something like pact then... pact-mate? But that may not work depending on how you look at the word 'mate' lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nix View Post
    I've never had that problem D: ... It's a pretty common term.

    As for the husband/wife thing, I'm not entirely sure what word you could use that signifies 'unity' while sidestepping the stigma of marriage.

    Partner / Bonded partner pretty much summed it up, though if they picked something like pact then... pact-mate? But that may not work depending on how you look at the word 'mate' lol.
    Would be hard to use mate in terms of a binding between sisters/brothers (if your intention was to bind in that way rather then a SSM like scenario).

    Just make up a word that means to have your paths be melded together as witnessed by the lodestone

    I'm sure there are words in other languages that refer to "soul mate" in a broader term but I cant think of anything in english that wasnt already mentioned lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nix View Post
    I've never had that problem D: ... It's a pretty common term.

    As for the husband/wife thing, I'm not entirely sure what word you could use that signifies 'unity' while sidestepping the stigma of marriage.

    Partner / Bonded partner pretty much summed it up, though if they picked something like pact then... pact-mate? But that may not work depending on how you look at the word 'mate' lol.
    This has been talked about for ages, how do you side step something that predates written history, to mend an issue just as old? The union of a man and a woman for the purpose of procreation. And the agreement to take care and protect that person and said offspring has been defined by the word marriage. The word means little more. Issue here is what should the "-------" between a man and a man or a woman and woman, or anything of that caliber be called. Emotion between the 2 partners exists "BUT" no procreation can happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Twiddle View Post
    This has been talked about for ages, how do you side step something that predates written history, to mend an issue just as old? The union of a man and a woman for the purpose of procreation. And the agreement to take care and protect that person and said offspring has been defined by the word marriage. The word means little more. Issue here is what should the "-------" between a man and a man or a woman and woman, or anything of that caliber be called. Emotion between the 2 partners exists "BUT" no procreation can happen.
    No sh!t. (To put it bluntly), if you read my post and understood it you'd know that was what I was trying to get at too lol.

    A quick edit: That being said the ----- word we use has to encompass the more than the bond between partners in love, but also other kinds of pacts if they were to implement that such as the pact between best friends etc.

    @Shougun- Mate is tricky! haha, back in my home country, the slang term 'mate' also meant friend lol
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