Marriage feedback [inofficial Poll]

[Zantetsuken]

Marriage has nothing to do with offspring lol.

Your opinion.

Millions of people would disagree - as does historical tradition.

[Kallivis]

According to you.

Millions of people would disagree.

Millions of people apparently found a time machine and went back to ancient times.

Most people these days have children without even being married. People who are married go on with their lives without having children. People who are married are usually divorced several times throughout their lives.

There is no sanctity to marriage. There hasn't been any for ages. It's a legal trait, and nothing more. The only special thing about it is at most the ceremony or ability to call someone you love your husband or wife. It has nothing to do with biology.

[Kallivis]

The further I discuss this and the further I read people discussing this the sillier it becomes. Not only is same sex marriage becoming a common sense and ethics thing in real life, the realm of real life and game shouldn't even matter as it's been brought up several times.

Eorzea is filled with bisexuality and homosexuality. It is obviously normal. Many of the NPCs come across as bisexual. My path companion in the story, a female, was constantly flirting with my character, a female.

At the same time, Eorzea is also filled with animal abuse and other questionable things. Hey, since we can go through this fantasy game slaughtering animals constantly for items and experience, why can't I go around in real life doing it? Oh yeah, it's not the same.

The answer should be obvious to this ordeal. The concept of same sex marriage is spreading across the world like wildfire because it's obviously the right thing to do and more and more places each year are accepting it. So it's the right thing to do for a videogame to also adapt it, considering THE COMPETITION already has. Why would we want to give ARR another reason to fall behind the competition? Those other games are also world-wide.

[ZakarnRosewood]

Traditionally marriage was about trading land and bringing peace between waring people. They were arranged marriages and people usually never had the choice. I'm happy to see a shift in that way of thinking as we progress into the future, but there are still those with a rather unenlightened view of things. As with all things of this nature, we will drag them kicking and screaming into the future!

I foresee this thread being closed soon for the exact reasons I posted a while back. Nothing new is being brought to the discussion and it is degrading into personal attacks.

[Zantetsuken]

Millions of people apparently found a time machine and went back to ancient times.

Ancient times = 1990 apparently?

Most people these days have children without even being married. People who are married go on with their lives without having children. People who are married are usually divorced several times throughout their lives.

Yes, however there is potential to have offspring - even if that potential isn't actualized. And most people who get married do have offspring - which benefits society at large.

There is no sanctity to marriage. There hasn't been any for ages. It's a legal trait, and nothing more. The only special thing about it is at most the ceremony or ability to call someone you love your husband or wife. It has nothing to do with biology.

Your opinion - others will disagree.

[Aenarion]

Except they aren't equal. There is no biological way for two people of the same sex to create offspring with each-other. (I apologize in advance if biological facts aren't politically correct, or offend people)

You may think "marriage" is just about nothing more than celebrating two people romantically involved each other. But for the last 5000 years, civilization has treated 'romance' as only one aspect of it. (and in arranged marriages, it might not be an aspect at all)

You want to change the meaning/purpose of marriage from it's historical roots.

Others will disagree, so don't be a hater.

Historically, marriage is a religious/cultural institution, functionally it has little to do with biological procreation.

[Kallivis]

Ancient times = 1990 apparently?

Not once in my entire life have I ever heard marriage about offspring, including when I used to be a religious nut but smartened up over the years and threw those teachings away.

Even so, if it is a rule of religion (which is generally the case in these arguments since no scientific or social rule will support any anti-homosexuality argument), real world religion has absolutely no place in games like this.

My most recent post stands.

[ZakarnRosewood]

Ancient times = 1990 apparently?



Yes, however there is potential to have offspring - even if that potential isn't actualized. And most people who get married do have offspring - which benefits society at large.



Your opinion - others will disagree.

Whats right is not always popular, what popular is not always right. Just because a majority of people think this way does not mean we should continue along that path, its time for change. Slavery was highly supported and the majority of people thought this way, were they right?

[Zantetsuken]

Not once in my entire life have I ever heard marriage about offspring, including when I used to be a religious nut but smartened up over the years and threw those teachings away.

Even so, if it is a rule of religion (which is generally the case in these arguments since no scientific or social rule will support any anti-homosexuality argument), real world religion has absolutely no place in games like this.

My most recent post stands.

You might need to get out more

[Zantetsuken]

Whats right is not always popular, what popular is not always right. Just because a majority of people think this way does not mean we should continue along that path, its time for change. Slavery was highly supported and the majority of people thought this way, were they right?

Opening a can of worms there...

So who/what determines what is right? How do you know that 60 years from now, people won't look back at SSM with the same disgust that we have for slavery?