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    Quote Originally Posted by RoxyLalonde View Post
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...9%B3%E7%AD%89?
    Japanese players are also debating this...
    A large portion of the thread is them talking about how we mostly have an issue with the actual use of the word "marriage" and that perhaps the best solution would just be to call it something else.

    Not really a judgement on my part... just providing a summary.
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    Yeah, a lot of them don't like the term marriage in general. Also, dear god they are so respectful to one another... It makes me want to learn japanese just so I can participate in their discussions.
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  3. #633
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    Quote Originally Posted by RoxyLalonde View Post
    Yeah, a lot of them don't like the term marriage in general. Also, dear god they are so respectful to one another... It makes me want to learn japanese just so I can participate in their discussions.
    I didn't learn japanese for that reason but I certainly use it. I actually play ALOT more with JPNs than US/EUs.. mostly cause of my sleep schedule.
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  4. #634
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    It would be hard for me to learn mostly cause I already speak three languages... such an expansive language may be too much for me to handle
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    Quote Originally Posted by RoxyLalonde View Post
    It would be hard for me to learn mostly cause I already speak three languages... such an expansive language may be too much for me to handle
    I can't speak for kanji, but i found my japanese I class in college to be MUCH easier than spanish. Yes, you have to learn a new system of writing, learning how to speak and write it, and getting used to a different syntax. But because it's so different, it makes it somewhat easier to learn, and more enjoyable as well. I hated learning spanish, because it was so similar to english in some ways and yet so different in others, which tripped me up a lot. But japanese is so different, you're not caught up by any old habits from english.

    I do hear kanji is evil though. :P
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    I think this is a really bad idea. Not because I'm anti-gay or anything (quite the opposite) but because marriage is a RP aspect of the game an should have no bearing on the mechanics of the game itself.

    I don't see how adding a marriage feature for anything outside of "pretending your married" adds any kind of fun factor to the game itself. So I'm opposed to all kinds of marriage entirely, they can spend their time doing things that allow anyone to take advantage of any types of special benefits they were going to add to so called married players.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jadi View Post
    I think this is a really bad idea. Not because I'm anti-gay or anything (quite the opposite) but because marriage is a RP aspect of the game an should have no bearing on the mechanics of the game itself.

    I don't see how adding a marriage feature for anything outside of "pretending your married" adds any kind of fun factor to the game itself. So I'm opposed to all kinds of marriage entirely, they can spend their time doing things that allow anyone to take advantage of any types of special benefits they were going to add to so called married players.
    It's not about having an advantage or adding to the gameplay, it's just a fun feature for people who want to use it. Those who don't can ignore it. This thread is simply about discussing their decision to restrict it. Marriage looks like it's going to be included either way, or maybe have its name changed so SE can avoid PR issues with "marriage".
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  8. #638
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    Quote Originally Posted by Psion View Post
    I can't speak for kanji, but i found my japanese I class in college to be MUCH easier than spanish. Yes, you have to learn a new system of writing, learning how to speak and write it, and getting used to a different syntax. But because it's so different, it makes it somewhat easier to learn, and more enjoyable as well. I hated learning spanish, because it was so similar to english in some ways and yet so different in others, which tripped me up a lot. But japanese is so different, you're not caught up by any old habits from english.

    I do hear kanji is evil though. :P
    Yeah, I seem to look at it and can't seem to be able to focus on the characters correctly... I do speak spanish english and swedish though

    @Jadi ...
    did they ever say it would be a game mechanic?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Colvin View Post
    1. Japanese society
    2. It should be decided based on whichever move will loose less subscribers

    they are not doing it BECAUSE of Japanese Society... that doesnt mean the discussion can't be open to see if the desire shouldnt superseed that for fans...

    You make out SE will lose thousands of subscribers if they make same sex marriage possible.. which is absolutely ridiculous. Go to page 1 and look at the votes. What makes you think it's because of JP society that they aren't allowing it?
    It seems in the discussion on the JP side of the forums that it's debating the name used -- particularly because they think English Speakers will have a problem with it.

    (By the way, it's spelt 'lose' not 'loose').

    Why can't people like you keep your nose out of other people's business? Our marriage will not effect you. The last thing we want to do is see you in-game, let alone invite you to any ceremony we have.

    Shoot down one of their bigoted ideas, and they just find something else.


    Oh and honey, stop contradicting yourself. You use Japanese society as a reason to not allow it, and then say that even though their society hasn't allowed it yet, that discussion should continue to see if the fans want it?

    Well it seems the majority want it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RoxyLalonde View Post
    Hahaha
    Btw @shougan aww I just saw your post, sadly The captain is taken and there already is a mister subligar :O
    Damn you know how to let a propsal down - hanging on the edge of my chair for the last few hours and then BOOM right in the face!

    I thought we really knew each other.. we had something special...


    Lol - and I liked the idea that Galka had none as well. Kind of sad it was a mistranslate - made the "Resurrection speculation done by the npc" less likely.

    @ Androgynous races:




    @ someone who knows japanese culture - are they sex specific in anti-homosexuality? Or is it dont ask dont tell. I have no idea what they think - I'd have thought they where more into it with what their pop stars look like and all lol.
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    Last edited by Shougun; 11-13-2012 at 02:49 PM.

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