Marriage feedback [inofficial Poll]

[Keisuna]

There is no legal marriage document that tells the government "Hey we're actually 1 entity now, hand over the tax breaks".

Do you live in a country that doesn't have marriage certificates and legal marriage or something?

[RosenKreuz]

Do you live in a country that doesn't have marriage certificates and legal marriage or something?

In the context of what I said, when a same sex couple hosts a wedding party in a country where they cannot legally marry, not here is not a marriage document. Under the law they are not a legally married couple. What I have said is that the lack of that document does not stop them from having a wedding, sharing their union with their friends and family, having a great big party, and then going on with their lives.

With modern marriages, the only difference is that document and that it tells the government 2 entities have become one and are now taxed differently.

A marriage, and a wedding, can be 2 completely different things.

[Keisuna]

In the context of what I said, when a same sex couple hosts a wedding party in a country where they cannot legally marry, not here is not a marriage document. Under the law they are not a legally married couple. What I have said is that the lack of that document does not stop them from having a wedding, sharing their union with their friends and family, having a great big party, and then going on with their lives.

With modern marriages, the only difference is that document and that it tells the government 2 entities have become one and are now taxed differently.

A marriage, and a wedding, can be 2 completely different things.

Ah, I see what you mean, but being legally married isn't just about taxes. It's also about being able to be seen by the law as the legal parent of your children, or being able to visit your spouse in the hospital, or make medical decisions for them when they're unable.

But most importantly it's about the union being recognized by the governing authority. You can have the biggest wedding in the world, and yet feel like your relationship is attacked by society as illegitimate because it isn't recognized by the law like 'normal' marriages are. That's kind of why I hated FFXI's restricting marriage to opposite gender couples, because the GMs, part of the governing authority in the game, officiated over it, and you had physical evidence in the form of a ring.

That's why many people feel it's important to have gay and straight marriage be equal. It doesn't matter if the water tastes the same and comes from the same place, the fact that you're forced to drink from one fountain and forbidden from another for no good reason is still a strong social message that you are inferior, and don't deserve to be treated as truly equal.

[Zyph]

It's also about being able to be seen by the law as the legal parent of your children

All of a sudden it's so clear. The reason why SE's only allowing opposite sex marriage.

New mini game: Child Raising.

It'll be like a cross between Chocobo raising from XI and Chao raising from Sonic Adventure.

Shit you can even race 'em.

[Wynn]

Do you live in a country that doesn't have marriage certificates and legal marriage or something?

I believe what they are saying is this doesn't exist in XIV so what's the big deal, just let the unions happen regardless of gender.

Edit: Rosen beat me to it :P

Also, Rosen: True on the girlfriend marrying thing. No joke. Straight ladies love us gay men. We are snappy dressers, clean, health conscious, we will make her breakfast in bed, and we won't care if she goes out to have sex with other men.