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  1. #571
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wynn View Post
    Because as soon as you're caught, the very inciting incident that would cause you to be arrested in the first place, you'd done harm to the person who now realizes their privacy has been invaded without their knowledge. It is a distraction argument. It has no place here and is not valid in any way. It is just more slippery slope nonsense.
    Quote Originally Posted by Wynn View Post
    Because as soon as you're caught, the very inciting incident that would cause you to be arrested in the first place, you'd done harm to the person who now realizes their privacy has been invaded without their knowledge. It is a distraction argument. It has no place here and is not valid in any way. It is just more slippery slope nonsense.
    Not necessarily. Who says the guy isn't caught on the way out of the locker room, or days later with tons of footage on him?

    I don't know how to make this more clear: THE SUBJECTS OF THE VOYEURISM NEVER, EVER FIND OUT.

    (If they did, they could press civil charges which is understandable)

    Why should it be a criminal matter??

    I'll wait.
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    Last edited by Zantetsuken; 11-13-2012 at 07:48 AM.

  2. #572
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zantetsuken View Post
    Not necessarily. Who says the guy isn't caught on the way out of the locker room, or days later with tons of footage on him?

    I don't know how to make this more clear: THE SUBJECTS OF THE VOYEURISM NEVER, EVER FIND OUT.

    (If they did, they could press civil charges which is understandable)

    Why should it be a criminal matter??
    This has nothing to do with same sex marriage in FFXIV/Eorzea. Please make your point if you have one pertaining to the topic of this thread.
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  3. #573
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    inb4 Zantetsuken saying "I have a point" and proceeding to not say anything about that point.
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  4. #574
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zantetsuken View Post
    Not necessarily. Who says the guy isn't caught on the way out of the locker room, or days later with tons of footage on him?

    I don't know how to make this more clear: THE SUBJECTS OF THE VOYEURISM NEVER, EVER FIND OUT.

    (If they did, they could press civil charges which is understandable)

    Why should it be a criminal matter??

    I'll wait.
    As people have already said countless times, this has nothing to do with same sex marriage. However, to reply to you, if a person gets arrested for voyarism the victim is notified. The victim is the one who has to press charges.

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    I think the point Zantetsuken's trying to make is, just because there's 2 consenting adults, it doesn't automatically make it right. He's going about making his point in a very, very round about fashion that's confusing some people but I believe that's his point. A personal belief, mind you, but there ya go.
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  6. #576
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    Quote Originally Posted by drivendawn View Post
    I think the point Zantetsuken's trying to make is, just because there's 2 consenting adults, it doesn't automatically make it right.
    If that's Zantetsuken's point, then lol, because the whole point of voyeur is that one party is non-consenting.
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  7. #577
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zyph View Post
    If that's Zantetsuken's point, then lol, because the whole point of voyeur is that one party is non-consenting.
    And entirely missing the point of this thread. This thread isn't about whether or not marriage is "right" or should be allowed. This thread is about providing feedback on the decision to restrict the marriage feature to heterosexual character couples. We're here to discuss that decision, that's it.
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  8. #578
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcell View Post
    And entirely missing the point of this thread. This thread isn't about whether or not marriage is "right" or should be allowed. This thread is about providing feedback on the decision to restrict the marriage feature to heterosexual character couples. We're here to discuss that decision, that's it.
    Exactly, also ignoring the fact that marriage in this game can only be done between two consenting parties. The voyeur analogy never had feet and I'm surprised it got this far.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Psion View Post
    I am confused. you say most guys end up playing female characters anyways, yet females also tend to play females, so that would mean a lot of straight males are excluded from marrying their girlfriends. And yet you think same sex marriage isn't necessary because of this?

    Unless you meant that most gay guys play women characters, in which case you're dead wrong. I've met 0 gay guys who've played a female character, for the same reason so many straight guys play female characters: we like our eye candy.

    And if you don't care either way, doesn't it make sense to vote yes, as same-sex marriage being allowed means that more people get to enjoy content, instead of less? Why vote no when your vote could potentially affect thousands of others?

    If you really don't care, vote yes, not no. Because by voting no, you're saying you care enough to take people's right to enjoy the same content you can away, not letting it stay.
    I chose no purely because it is my choice to. I chose no because I like the idea of a story being less about gender and more about the game. So what if you can't marry your bf/gf/pet chinchilla in a game. If your relationship is effected so deeply by actions taken in a video game, then it's clearly not a relationship that's going to last.

    Anyway, what's my decission got to do with you? I merely stated my opinion.
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  10. #580
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaldaka View Post
    If your relationship is effected so deeply by actions taken in a video game, then it's clearly not a relationship that's going to last.
    No one said anything about their relationships being affected, but nice try.
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    Act in such a way that you treat humanity, whether in your own person or in the person of another, always at the same time as an end and never simply as a means

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