Marriage feedback [inofficial Poll]

[Arcell]

yes please, if there is even higher majority in a mmo it's people that give too shits about wasting resources in a mmo to get couples and rp'ers married. hit vegas and get married for fun and let us play video games that involve kicking the crap out of beasts all day.

Well they're already "wasting"/have "wasted" the resources to create the feature. Your move now Yoshida. Remove marriage and put all that to waste or remove the gender restriction on marriage and keep the feature that your team spent time working on.

[Colvin]

or add same sex marriage so this thread will go away.

I'm pretty sure that it wouldn't make the thread go away.. maybe change to a new thread called "Why I am leaving FFXIV"... then add like 100 more. The flames! OOOOoooh the flames!

[Arcell]

I'm pretty sure that it wouldn't make the thread go away.. maybe change to a new thread called "Why I am leaving FFXIV"... then add like 100 more. The flames! OOOOoooh the flames!

It would make THIS thread go away. Nothing has been said in this thread to support your claims. I don't think anyone has stated they would quit in either case.

[LemmingKingXXX]

Sexual urges aren't may not be a choice, but sexual activity certainly is.

If not, society would have no standing by which to punish rapists, peeping toms, child molesters, etc.

it may be a bit buried in the land of few periods, but I did address that

but passing laws against fundamental sexuality (not overt private/public sexual behavior)

[Wynn]

lololol

So basically what you're saying is that you do care. You just don't want to admit it.

I also don't believe you have ever truly known a gay person in your life or much about gay people in general. There are deeply spiritual and faithful people in the LGBT community. Christians. Catholics. Jews. Muslims. Every single world religion that exists. There are also conservative people in the LGBT community. Ever heard of Log Cabin Republicans? We are cut from many creeds. You'd know that if you had any kind of real world experience with gay people. Stop trying to generalize as if you are some gay person authority. You obviously have no idea what you are talking about.

Guess what, what it boils down to is I don't give one crap about your religion, political affiliation, or your beliefs. You can take your supposed "education" and shove it right up your you know what. You have absolutely no right to force your opinions down my or anyone else's throat. You believe something about homosexuality, that's great. You live by it. But you don't have the right to make others do the same. By the way, that is the very principle libertarians live by so if you really are one as you say, you should learn what they actually believe:

"We hold that all individuals have the right to exercise sole dominion over their own lives, and have the right to live in whatever manner they choose, so long as they do not forcibly interfere with the equal right of others to live in whatever manner they choose."

"Sexual orientation, preference, gender, or gender identity should have no impact on the government's treatment of individuals, such as in current marriage, child custody, adoption, immigration or military service laws. Government does not have the authority to define, license or restrict personal relationships. Consenting adults should be free to choose their own sexual practices and personal relationships." - The Libertarian Platform.

Source - http://www.lp.org/platform

Also, please stop trying to make it seem like somehow you are a victim and the LGBT community is a giant victimizer just playing victim. Half the things you are arguing right now, I never even said to you. You talk like a crazy person who is just regergitating rheteric from some internet pamphlet they read 100 times so they could justify their hatred in an argument.

[Loggos]

Sexual urges aren't may not be a choice, but sexual activity certainly is.

If not, society would have no standing by which to punish rapists, peeping toms, child molesters, etc.

But the problem of this is that those are one-sided activities that harm a person not involved in those likings of activity. Those things are not mutual, therefore they are forced and do a whole lot of harm.
In our society we generally punish something when we consider it harmful, not when it is against nature by default.
Two people loving each other and have sexual activity with mutual agreement are not harming others with their choice of life (unless they show what is classified as indecent behaviour by law).

Anything from dying one's hair, being tattooed or pierced up to gender change is also against nature but it is personal and causes no direct harm to another person.

[Zantetsuken]

But the problem of this is that those are one-sided activities that harm a person not involved in those likings of activity. Those things are not mutual, therefore they are forced and do a whole lot of harm.
In our society we generally punish something when we consider it harmful not when it is against nature by default.
Two people loving each other and have sexual activity with mutual agreement are not harming others with their choice of life (unless they show what is classified indecent behaviour by law).

Anything from dying one's hair up to gender change is also against nature but it is personal and causes no direct harm to another person.

Peeping Toms don't affect anyone unless the victim (or friends of the victim) discover it.

Perhaps planting hidden cameras in changing/locker/bathrooms should be sanctioned by law as long as the voyeur doesn't distribute the material?

It's quite harmless after all...

[Kallivis]

Peeping Toms don't affect anyone unless the victim (or friends of the victim) discover it.

Perhaps planting hidden cameras in changing/locker/bathrooms should be sanctioned by law as long as the voyeur doesn't distribute the material?

It's quite harmless after all...

A crime that invades someone's privacy and dignity is a bit far-fetched from the main point and I'd ask you to be a bit more mature in your presentation.

[Reika]

I still dont see how people are still relating anything done in a video game to real life. You dont even know what gender person is playing what gender character. If they wont put a control on what gender you play, they surely shouldnt put any controls on what gender you would marry to.

If they just add opposite sex marriage, it could be these combos.
Fem playing F marries M playing M
Fem playing M marries M playing F
Fem playing F marries F playing M
Male playing F marries M playing M

add same sex marriage, it could be these combos.

F playing F marries F playing F
M playing M marries M playing M
F playing M marries F playing M
M playing F marries M playing F

So, what does it matter. Opposite-only WONT stop two people of the same gender from marrying inside of a game. It's only an uneeded limitation, forcing someone to change their IN-GAME gender to utilize the marriage system. They dont even have to be gay. They might just be friends, they might be married, they might be 500+ miles apart. In any case, one person marrying another will not effect anyone else other than those two.

[Wynn]

Peeping Toms don't affect anyone unless the victim (or friends of the victim) discover it.

Perhaps planting hidden cameras in changing/locker/bathrooms should be sanctioned by law as long as the voyeur doesn't distribute the material?

It's quite harmless after all...

That is a ridiculous argument. You are comparing an act of violation on a person without their knowledge or consent with two consenting adults entering into a marriage who happen to be the same gender. It is so beyond comparision that it is actually laughable.