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  1. #371
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallivis View Post
    That's my level of sanity right there! w
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    I read through about 10 pages of this...and not one person has mentioned this:

    There are different RACES in this game...is it taboo to mix within completely different species?!

    I mean is a Rog going to be able to marry a Miq or Taru(lol)?
    If so, then why is same sex even on the table...
    seems like you should be able to marry whoever the F you want, or even make a pledge of celibacy/be single.

    S.E.: Just put it in from the beginning and never mention it again. Not many will care, and adding it later due to political pressure or whatever will have made you seem outdated, or weak. If someone asks why you allow it, ask them if they oppose Human and Rog unions, and make no more comments.
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  3. #373
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    Quote Originally Posted by Soulfire View Post
    I'm well-informed people lack a great deal, and that it's so easy for the foolish to call others fools. You may call me an "uninformed idiot," but of the post revealing such you may not correctly say so. You may, however, think you can correctly say so. I'll let you have your opinion on the matter. Now leave me to think as I will without insulting me for it.

    If the concern is for gay people, fear not. I believe they should be treated respectably as any other. Certain actions, however, do not merit approval. Coldheartedness included.

    Some words I say simply don't pass on properly, and I am often judged strangely for it, with here being no exception, but whatever... I'm not a magician of conveyance. I'm just an "uninformed idiot," and what information can be gleaned about such from the selfsame? Consider me an enigma.
    Speaking in archaic terminology does not make you an enigma, it really doesn't. That you think you're special because you can understand words you see in cutscenes does not make you enlightened either.

    Also, as you yourself say, I am allowed to believe what I want, and no amount of roundabout insults is going to make you less of a bigot, nor any amount of repeating your sentences using different words make you less of an idiot.

    That you define cold-heartedness as someone calling you uniformed but believe that saying two people who love each other wanting to be married is morally unjustified debauchery is perfectly acceptable speaks volumes to me about what exactly you are, and an enigma it is not.
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  4. #374
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    Quote Originally Posted by AmmaUltman View Post
    I read through about 10 pages of this...and not one person has mentioned this:

    There are different RACES in this game...is it taboo to mix within completely different species?!

    I mean is a Rog going to be able to marry a Miq or Taru(lol)?
    If so, then why is same sex even on the table...
    seems like you should be able to marry whoever the F you want, or even make a pledge of celibacy/be single.

    S.E.: Just put it in from the beginning and never mention it again. Not many will care, and adding it later due to political pressure or whatever will have made you seem outdated, or weak. If someone asks why you allow it, ask them if they oppose Human and Rog unions, and make no more comments.
    We mentioned that several times. The posts were deleted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiroh View Post
    Speaking in archaic terminology does not make you an enigma, it really doesn't. That you think you're special because you can understand words you see in cutscenes does not make you enlightened either.

    Also, as you yourself say, I am allowed to believe what I want, and no amount of roundabout insults is going to make you less of a bigot, nor any amount of repeating your sentences using different words make you less of an idiot.

    That you define cold-heartedness as someone calling you uniformed but believe that saying two people who love each other wanting to be married is morally unjustified debauchery is perfectly acceptable speaks volumes to me about what exactly you are, and an enigma it is not.
    Remember the hug! Don't step into the fire.
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  6. #376
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    Kiroh, let it go, seriously. Why do you feel the need to attack people? I understand some people will not share the same view as you, but labeling them things like "Republican, anti-women, uninformed idiot" does not make you the bigger person. You come off as a fool. We get it, you want SSM in this game, you've been heard. Give suggestions on how to make it happen other than getting hot headed and stalking people for their first-born if they say something remotely offensive.

    And if something someone says bothers you, explain to them WHY, constructively, without all the attacking bullshit pls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vilhem View Post
    Kiroh, let it go, seriously. Why do you feel the need to attack people? I understand some people will not share the same view as you, but labeling them things like "Republican, anti-women, uninformed idiot" does not make you the bigger person. You come off as a fool. We get it, you want SSM in this game, you've been heard. Give suggestions on how to make it happen other than getting hot headed and stalking people for their first-born if they say something remotely offensive.

    And if something someone says bothers you, explain to them WHY, constructively, without all the attacking bullshit pls.

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    Vil, with all respect, don't get on my nerves. If you can think of a constructive thing to say about, or to, someone who calls gay marriage THAT, by all means post it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AmmaUltman View Post
    I read through about 10 pages of this...and not one person has mentioned this:

    There are different RACES in this game...is it taboo to mix within completely different species?!

    I mean is a Rog going to be able to marry a Miq or Taru(lol)?
    If so, then why is same sex even on the table...
    seems like you should be able to marry whoever the F you want, or even make a pledge of celibacy/be single.

    S.E.: Just put it in from the beginning and never mention it again. Not many will care, and adding it later due to political pressure or whatever will have made you seem outdated, or weak. If someone asks why you allow it, ask them if they oppose Human and Rog unions, and make no more comments.
    The lore team has already said stuff like that can happen. They've also said Eorzeans are open-minded... I think in response to same-gender couples. So this stuff does happen in Eorzea, it's just implementation could be a hindrance to SE. It's not the first time I've seen a company tiptoe.
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  9. #379
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiroh View Post
    Vil, with all respect, don't get on my nerves. If you can think of a constructive thing to say about, or to, someone who calls gay marriage THAT, by all means post it.
    What about the nerves of others you've already agitated with your shit flinging? I've corrected insensitive people all the time, it's not hard. Infact, without resorting to immature name calling, they're usually left speechless because they can't ANSWER why they disagree with it. Which gives YOU the advantage to give them the proper information.

    You insult them and they're going to immediately jump on THAT subject as opposed to trying to educate them on what you feel is an error in their line of thinking.

    If you can't do that, then please, stop reading this thread. You'll get it locked with your silliness. We don't need a Fighter for the GLBT Justice. We are ALL looking for ways to make this happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiroh View Post
    Vil, with all respect, don't get on my nerves. If you can think of a constructive thing to say about, or to, someone who calls gay marriage THAT, by all means post it.
    The ability to simply ignore can work wonders. It's not like anything you could possibly say is going to get through to that person.
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