Marriage feedback [inofficial Poll]

[Kallivis]

I post here because i don't want to see such a thing in this beautiful game, but i like Whoopeeragon's idea about this .

Thankfully not many people share your opinion and have better judgement of what is and what is not beautiful.

[Vilhem]

I post here because i don't want to see such a thing in this beautiful game, but i like Whoopeeragon's idea about this .

You don't have to see it if you don't want to. Nobody is forcing you to use this marriage system. And if you can't handle in-game same sex couples running around, how do you handle daily real life? o_O (not an attack, just curious)

That you agree though with the suggestions, that indicates progress on our part. We're getting closer to our happy medium :3

[Soulfire]

Back to Kiroh, since I wouldn't be happy leaving you distempered as I'm heading off...

You should understand some of what I first said... I'm assuming the initial interpretation to closely represent how a number will see it. Same-gender marriage an oxymoron? I didn't invent that. Morally debased? That was around before I was even born! (Though excuse me, as I can't claim I don't feel the sentiment.)

That's what SE is up against, and it just plain wouldn't make them look good. The mentions of alternative ways to work around it were quite good, though. That's where the discussion would best be headed to produce results.

[EnkiOro]

Good thing about this thread is that I get to add to my Ignore List some of these intolerant morons. To everyone else showing their support, straight, bisexual or gay, thank you very much! (:

If same-sex marriage is added or not, it won't matter, because my boyfriend and I will be using the same surnames, and you'll have to deal with it!

[Hysterior]

would be good instead of just "marriage" just call it an alliance that 2 people could make, regardless of sex or gender.

but quite frankly if a male roeg with beard who look 50 can marry a female lalafell who look 3 year old, I don't see why they even dare bringing up sex issues...

[Valk]

The guy just posted his opinion about it and how he dislikes it, why are you attacking him? it's a discussion board, you can't force your opinions on others, it's like you guys are only looking for people who support this Same-Sex marriage to reply, hello? "discussion board", different opinions are always welcome as long as they don't offend anyone.
Just like everyone else in this world, SquareEnix had the option to either go Go-Gays or Go-Straights.. they chose the later, if LGBT was approved of in Japan things would go different, just live with it.
I don't care whether they add this option in the game or not, but if it was for me I'd say "No." Not that I care about peoples' choices, I have friends IRL who chose to be Gay/Bi-sexual, they are good to me even though they know where I stand about their preferences.

[Kallivis]

I have friends IRL who chose to be Gay/Bi-sexual, they are good to me even though they know where I stand about their preferences.

You don't choose to be gay or straight, this is one reason people who support it get annoyed by these sorts of comments. They come off as ignorant and insulting.

There is a difference between bringing up a constructive comment about why you don't want it, and outright saying things like "it's morally debased" or "it's disgusting".

There have been a lot of good ideas in the thread and constructive comments from both sides, but there are people who are naturally indignant when it comes to unjust comments.

[Fylion]

The guy just posted his opinion about it and how he dislikes it, why are you attacking him? it's a discussion board, you can't force your opinions on others, it's like you guys are only looking for people who support this Same-Sex marriage to reply, hello? "discussion board", different opinions are always welcome as long as they don't offend anyone.
Just like everyone else in this world, SquareEnix had the option to either go Go-Gays or Go-Straights.. they chose the later, if LGBT was approved of in Japan things would go different, just live with it.
I don't care whether they add this option in the game or not, but if it was for me I'd say "No." Not that I care about peoples' choices, I have friends IRL who chose to be Gay/Bi-sexual, they are good to me even though they know where I stand about their preferences.

Oh... just awaiting the day when everyone reads modern scholarly literature. For the majority of the gay population it's not a choice; huge research endeavors in genetics and biochemistry (especially neurochemistry) have found that individual will has nothing to do with the issue. (Can't speak for Trans, as that research isn't as well funded or popular.) To avoid derailing the issue: send me a message or something if you want links to the studies.

[Yellow]

I keep seeing this issue of people saying they don't want SSM in FFXIV:ARR with their reasons based from their p.o.v IRL. Then we have the people saying 'keep your RL views out of this in game discussion blah blah'.

Sorry, but in order to have a constructive and coherent discussion, we for all intents and purpose have to use information outside of this game to try and get a clear reason why these people object to it.

If it means informing them, then so be it.

I have friends IRL who chose to be Gay/Bi-sexual, they are good to me even though they know where I stand about their preferences.

No one chooses. It's not my opinion, it is experience that not only myself, but many (if not every) bisexual/homosexual individuals have. They accept that, that is who they are, and no good will come from hiding or denying it.

I'd really like to see a good reason why they don't want SSM in ARR. All I am seeing is 'AMG ITZ IMMORALLLL'. Killing is immoral too, are you going to stop that in ARR?

But as it goes, I haven't seen one remotely good reason as to why there shouldn't be SSM in ARR.. I don't think a good reason actually exists.. I don't think I've seen more than one.. sort of.. reason.


Also lol, how many abbreviations do I want to use?!

[Kallivis]

I keep seeing this issue of people saying they don't want SSM in FFXIV:ARR with their reasons based from their p.o.v IRL. Then we have the people saying 'keep your RL views out of this in game discussion blah blah'.

Sorry, but in order to have a constructive and coherent discussion, we for all intents and purpose have to use information outside of this game to try and get a clear reason why these people object to it.

If it means informing them, then so be it.

I'd really like to see a good reason why they don't want SSM in ARR. All I am seeing is 'AMG ITZ IMMORALLLL'. Killing is immoral too, are you going to stop that in ARR?

But as it goes, I haven't seen one remotely good reason as to why there shouldn't be SSM in ARR.. I don't think a good reason actually exists.. I don't think I've seen more than one.. sort of.. reason.


Also lol, how many abbreviations do I want to use?!

I dunno it's kind of like dealing with racists or something. Like back in the 50s when racism was far worse but people smartened up over time and equality came into play, and now many people look back on those times like "boy those people sure were assholes". We're entering that time with marriage equality, and 20 years from now things will be even more different. They'll be looking back at us like "boy they sure were assholes".

It's not a matter of what anyone's silly little holy book says, or what their father says, or what their employer says, it's what's common sense says and what's better for people in general. It's a human right to allow it. Hell, we're facing a really bad population problem in the world right now. I almost wish 70% of the population would just magically turn gay to actually give some hope to the world lol. Look what's in your heart.

Unless your heart is a dark, bleak, intolerant place.