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    I prefer that SE just left Marriage out of the game entirely. Not for the sake of equality, religion or even wasted dev resources.

    Minors (teenagers) play this game and although online romances occur all the time, I don't like the game actually encouraging these relationships..whether they are straight, gay, lesbian or even worse...Adult & Minor.

    Yes it is a parents responsibility to monitor their child's online activities but anyone who is a parent knows it is very difficult and any of you who become parents will find out for yourselves how troubling online relationships can be with teenage children especially.

    I played FFXI with my two daughters for many years and I had to set quite a few players straight about some of the inappropriate behavior and attention given to my younger daughter especially. Again, I fully realize it was my responsibility to monitor it and ultimately my "fault" for allowing them to play in the first place, but my point is that these dangers already exist without the added pressure of "kids" wanting to "marry" someone they met in an online game.

    This can and many times does lead to not just hurt feelings but can lead to Bullying and even Stalking (both cyber and real life).
    I just don't want anything in this game that encourages that sort of behavior so please just leave Marriage out of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Davorok View Post
    I prefer that SE just left Marriage out of the game entirely. Not for the sake of equality, religion or even wasted dev resources.

    Minors (teenagers) play this game and although online romances occur all the time, I don't like the game actually encouraging these relationships..whether they are straight, gay, lesbian or even worse...Adult & Minor.

    Yes it is a parents responsibility to monitor their child's online activities but anyone who is a parent knows it is very difficult and any of you who become parents will find out for yourselves how troubling online relationships can be with teenage children especially.

    I played FFXI with my two daughters for many years and I had to set quite a few players straight about some of the inappropriate behavior and attention given to my younger daughter especially. Again, I fully realize it was my responsibility to monitor it and ultimately my "fault" for allowing them to play in the first place, but my point is that these dangers already exist without the added pressure of "kids" wanting to "marry" someone they met in an online game.

    This can and many times does lead to not just hurt feelings but can lead to Bullying and even Stalking (both cyber and real life).
    I just don't want anything in this game that encourages that sort of behavior so please just leave Marriage out of it.
    Honestly, I was actually kind of hoping they'd just put a cathedral there and let the players who are getting married handle it. I'm sorry to hear about how your daughters have been treated, though. There really should be something that tells people that they're dealing with a minor, but I can also see how that could be detrimental too.
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    The thing about Prop8 is that 74million dollars of that campaign was donated by religious faith which infact politics and faith are suppose to remain separate. Its politically incorrect to infringe upon others rights using your faith. Just on that note. The only reason why people dont like it becauses its a bit odd and causes some minor emotional discomfort. Like anything would; a straight couple making out in public. People staring at you... etc etc
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    Quote Originally Posted by Davorok View Post
    Minors (teenagers) play this game and although online romances occur all the time, I don't like the game actually encouraging these relationships..whether they are straight, gay, lesbian or even worse...Adult & Minor.
    I actually outright whined when I read this post. I was close to sobbing. Don't take offense when I say this, but this is a very thoughtless post. I don't think you're thoughtless, perhaps you just had a lapse of judgement.

    We are playing a game in a fantasy setting with violence, murder, sabotage, drinking (heavily), sexual innuendo all over the place, I think there were even a few cutscenes which alluded to rape, and far more. Hell, the entire seventh umbral era focused on the end of the world and the deaths of thousands of people, something very dark in itself.

    You are worried about marriage.



    Did you even stop to consider the fact that you're playing with tons of people from all over the world that will happen to talk about absolutely anything? People are gonna swear, flame, and talk about strange topics. Hell, chances are they're gonna come across or even participate in cybersex. Teens tend to do that.

    It's a game. They're gonna be exposed to far more worse things than "marriage" and I'm sure they will be just fine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Davorok View Post
    I prefer that SE just left Marriage out of the game entirely. Not for the sake of equality, religion or even wasted dev resources.

    Minors (teenagers) play this game and although online romances occur all the time, I don't like the game actually encouraging these relationships..whether they are straight, gay, lesbian or even worse...Adult & Minor.

    Yes it is a parents responsibility to monitor their child's online activities but anyone who is a parent knows it is very difficult and any of you who become parents will find out for yourselves how troubling online relationships can be with teenage children especially.

    I played FFXI with my two daughters for many years and I had to set quite a few players straight about some of the inappropriate behavior and attention given to my younger daughter especially. Again, I fully realize it was my responsibility to monitor it and ultimately my "fault" for allowing them to play in the first place, but my point is that these dangers already exist without the added pressure of "kids" wanting to "marry" someone they met in an online game.

    This can and many times does lead to not just hurt feelings but can lead to Bullying and even Stalking (both cyber and real life).
    I just don't want anything in this game that encourages that sort of behavior so please just leave Marriage out of it.
    I really see this as the woes of a protective father, but you have to look at the facts. Most children are exposed to ideas of marriage from birth given the fact that most children are the product of a married couple and are raised by, guess what? A married couple. Does this mean we need to start protecting children from married couples? Asking for them to not have it for the sake of hiding fantasy video game marriage from them is one of the most absolutely ridiculous things you can do.

    It's not bad to subject children to ideas of marriage because it's just so normal, so mundane they already know about it. I mean I can even remember being a small child playing with dolls pretending to marry them and I didn't get those ideas from a video game and none of those ideas hurt me as a child.

    If you don't agree with it, tell your kids not to do it or don't let them play the game and as one of the above post says, this is one of the smallest things you can even complain about. There are much worse things in this game. At most you should ask for parental control over such things, not restrict it to everyone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Davorok View Post
    Minors (teenagers) play this game and although online romances occur all the time, I don't like the game actually encouraging these relationships..whether they are straight, gay, lesbian or even worse...Adult & Minor.

    This can and many times does lead to not just hurt feelings but can lead to Bullying and even Stalking (both cyber and real life).
    I just don't want anything in this game that encourages that sort of behavior so please just leave Marriage out of it.
    Lets not let people drive cars too cause then they would drink and drive?

    "Teenagers"? Teens are already having sex, smoking pot, getting drunk, dropping acid etc. etc. just like many of us did when we were teens. The only thing you can do to prevent them from making mistakes in the above categories is education and exposure. Teach by example not by pacifism because come 18 they will fail at life without the daddy/mommy tank keeping hate off em.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Synfrag View Post
    Teach by example not by pacifism because come 18 they will fail at life without the daddy/mommy tank keeping hate off em.
    While I don't entirely agree, I will definitely like this post just for this sentence alone. xD
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    Look how happy we are, why would you want to take that away from us ; __ ;

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