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    Not even sure I will marry anyone, if I do it will probably be one of my friends who is a guy in real life and maybe in character as well.

    I would like to see a binding ceromony as an option - not to replace those who really do want a same sex marriage but for those like myself who think it would be cool to have binding features with someone but not really care for a wedding themed ceremony.

    (I am heterosexual married male - maybe my mental issue but I think marrying someone not my wife (who doesn't play) and also female would be a little weird - binding brother relationship would be bad-ass option (again I don't care if there is a same sex marriage, just my extra two cents want to have option))
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    Huginn Aesir
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    Oh no, it's huginn again, someone please handle this!

    Apparently a great many of us do not understand sarcasm or satire or any other form of writing other than literal.
    When i say i dont care if you marry a tree, i mean i dont care what gender the tree is. When i say that we have to make sure the players are not homosexual but characters are ok, i figured that this was such high hyperbole that no one would possibly take it seriously.

    and when i make a comment and then have to use the phrase "in all seriousness," that means that the previous comment was most likely not the heartfelt truth.

    What i actually do mean is that I believe that pushing your own personal agenda on something that does not affect the game in a meaningful manner is ridiculous. Is it really very important for someone's civil rights that they be allowed to marry in a virtual world? Do you have to try to stir up trouble with cultures that you do not understand?

    I actually do not care what you do with yourselves, so long as you exercise personal responsibility and take responsibility for the consequences of your actions. Additionally, that last sentence was a generalization, i am not insinuating that there are some kind of dire consequence to homosexuality. I am sick and tired of the exceptionally exclusive GBLT club, no heterosexuals, no hermaphrodites and no asexuals or quirky alones. Take your agenda and go have fun, but stop badgering me.

    I ask you this one question: What does my marriage between myself, a man, and my wife, a woman, do to damage your life? Stop telling me that i am to go to hell because i am the minority (the group who doesnt care what your marital status and eligibility is based on gender). I also have some news for you, even california voted to forbid gay marriage, you are indeed in the minority, they call it "the vocal minority."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Huginn View Post
    I am sick and tired of the exceptionally exclusive GBLT club, no heterosexuals, no hermaphrodites and no asexuals or quirky alones. Take your agenda and go have fun, but stop badgering me.
    I don't know what specific LGBT community you're talking about, but if they're not also including straight allies, intersexed, and asexual people, they're doing it wrong.

    Quote Originally Posted by Huginn View Post
    I ask you this one question: What does my marriage between myself, a man, and my wife, a woman, do to damage your life?
    The damage caused by banning gay marriage has nothing to do with straight marriage itself. It has to do with banning gay marriage.

    Quote Originally Posted by Huginn View Post
    I also have some news for you, even california voted to forbid gay marriage, you are indeed in the minority, they call it "the vocal minority."
    Proposition 8 in California, which passed by a slim majority, was voted on by an electorate that was influenced by ads that were shown in court to be deliberately misleading. Perry v Brown is the trial, if you'd like to look that up.

    I think the most important thing to remember is while this country is still roundly divided on the issue, the younger generations are far more in favor of marriage equality than their elders. Anyone in this country who will really care that gay marriage is allowed in this game are probably the type of people who don't play or really care about video games.

    Unfortunately I'm less certain that it'd go over well with the Japanese. I wouldn't know, of course, but it seems like they're still a bit behind the times on marriage equality.
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    I just like the one I felt appropriate in the OP and didn't read the entire thread, so I apologize if I repeat anything already said.


    Same-sex marriage is fine by me. However, I also understand why SE is treading carefully, as this is a fiery topic.
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    Personally, I would get married for the benefits of it. I don't care about any religious contentions attached to it. If you're able to split your in game assets with your partner, I want to share my fortune, housing and life with him officially just like everbody else that has found their special some one. If you're against it, good for you thats your opinion but ultimately gay or not we pay the same subscribtion fee.
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    Last edited by Gugnir; 11-12-2012 at 07:22 AM.

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    I prefer that SE just left Marriage out of the game entirely. Not for the sake of equality, religion or even wasted dev resources.

    Minors (teenagers) play this game and although online romances occur all the time, I don't like the game actually encouraging these relationships..whether they are straight, gay, lesbian or even worse...Adult & Minor.

    Yes it is a parents responsibility to monitor their child's online activities but anyone who is a parent knows it is very difficult and any of you who become parents will find out for yourselves how troubling online relationships can be with teenage children especially.

    I played FFXI with my two daughters for many years and I had to set quite a few players straight about some of the inappropriate behavior and attention given to my younger daughter especially. Again, I fully realize it was my responsibility to monitor it and ultimately my "fault" for allowing them to play in the first place, but my point is that these dangers already exist without the added pressure of "kids" wanting to "marry" someone they met in an online game.

    This can and many times does lead to not just hurt feelings but can lead to Bullying and even Stalking (both cyber and real life).
    I just don't want anything in this game that encourages that sort of behavior so please just leave Marriage out of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Davorok View Post
    I prefer that SE just left Marriage out of the game entirely. Not for the sake of equality, religion or even wasted dev resources.

    Minors (teenagers) play this game and although online romances occur all the time, I don't like the game actually encouraging these relationships..whether they are straight, gay, lesbian or even worse...Adult & Minor.

    Yes it is a parents responsibility to monitor their child's online activities but anyone who is a parent knows it is very difficult and any of you who become parents will find out for yourselves how troubling online relationships can be with teenage children especially.

    I played FFXI with my two daughters for many years and I had to set quite a few players straight about some of the inappropriate behavior and attention given to my younger daughter especially. Again, I fully realize it was my responsibility to monitor it and ultimately my "fault" for allowing them to play in the first place, but my point is that these dangers already exist without the added pressure of "kids" wanting to "marry" someone they met in an online game.

    This can and many times does lead to not just hurt feelings but can lead to Bullying and even Stalking (both cyber and real life).
    I just don't want anything in this game that encourages that sort of behavior so please just leave Marriage out of it.
    Honestly, I was actually kind of hoping they'd just put a cathedral there and let the players who are getting married handle it. I'm sorry to hear about how your daughters have been treated, though. There really should be something that tells people that they're dealing with a minor, but I can also see how that could be detrimental too.
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    The thing about Prop8 is that 74million dollars of that campaign was donated by religious faith which infact politics and faith are suppose to remain separate. Its politically incorrect to infringe upon others rights using your faith. Just on that note. The only reason why people dont like it becauses its a bit odd and causes some minor emotional discomfort. Like anything would; a straight couple making out in public. People staring at you... etc etc
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    Quote Originally Posted by Davorok View Post
    Minors (teenagers) play this game and although online romances occur all the time, I don't like the game actually encouraging these relationships..whether they are straight, gay, lesbian or even worse...Adult & Minor.
    I actually outright whined when I read this post. I was close to sobbing. Don't take offense when I say this, but this is a very thoughtless post. I don't think you're thoughtless, perhaps you just had a lapse of judgement.

    We are playing a game in a fantasy setting with violence, murder, sabotage, drinking (heavily), sexual innuendo all over the place, I think there were even a few cutscenes which alluded to rape, and far more. Hell, the entire seventh umbral era focused on the end of the world and the deaths of thousands of people, something very dark in itself.

    You are worried about marriage.



    Did you even stop to consider the fact that you're playing with tons of people from all over the world that will happen to talk about absolutely anything? People are gonna swear, flame, and talk about strange topics. Hell, chances are they're gonna come across or even participate in cybersex. Teens tend to do that.

    It's a game. They're gonna be exposed to far more worse things than "marriage" and I'm sure they will be just fine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Davorok View Post
    I prefer that SE just left Marriage out of the game entirely. Not for the sake of equality, religion or even wasted dev resources.

    Minors (teenagers) play this game and although online romances occur all the time, I don't like the game actually encouraging these relationships..whether they are straight, gay, lesbian or even worse...Adult & Minor.

    Yes it is a parents responsibility to monitor their child's online activities but anyone who is a parent knows it is very difficult and any of you who become parents will find out for yourselves how troubling online relationships can be with teenage children especially.

    I played FFXI with my two daughters for many years and I had to set quite a few players straight about some of the inappropriate behavior and attention given to my younger daughter especially. Again, I fully realize it was my responsibility to monitor it and ultimately my "fault" for allowing them to play in the first place, but my point is that these dangers already exist without the added pressure of "kids" wanting to "marry" someone they met in an online game.

    This can and many times does lead to not just hurt feelings but can lead to Bullying and even Stalking (both cyber and real life).
    I just don't want anything in this game that encourages that sort of behavior so please just leave Marriage out of it.
    I really see this as the woes of a protective father, but you have to look at the facts. Most children are exposed to ideas of marriage from birth given the fact that most children are the product of a married couple and are raised by, guess what? A married couple. Does this mean we need to start protecting children from married couples? Asking for them to not have it for the sake of hiding fantasy video game marriage from them is one of the most absolutely ridiculous things you can do.

    It's not bad to subject children to ideas of marriage because it's just so normal, so mundane they already know about it. I mean I can even remember being a small child playing with dolls pretending to marry them and I didn't get those ideas from a video game and none of those ideas hurt me as a child.

    If you don't agree with it, tell your kids not to do it or don't let them play the game and as one of the above post says, this is one of the smallest things you can even complain about. There are much worse things in this game. At most you should ask for parental control over such things, not restrict it to everyone.
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