Will Relics create the same problems that they did in FFXI?

[strallaalaa]

theres nothing wrong with there being a top weapon that takes years to get. there is tons of other slots to gear up after you get that piece. hopefully they still find ways to make multiple pieces useful for every slot like in ffxi as well. the bad thing will be is if we get corny full sets that are gather-able in a few months and then your literally done with the game till new expansions come out like other cheesy piece of crap mmo's that keep coming out.

personally they should add gear like this for every slot, multiple pieces like this for every slot. make them for events that you don't have to do and are only good for those types of events so people don't feel like they have to do it. just like they seperate pvp and pve gear these days, add gear that is only good for say large scale events or crazy hardcore stuff.

[Kantide]

The beauty of XIV is they can release new Job specific armor that is closer to other FF games besides the ones we have now as the cap increases. Since the game seems to be incorporating features from many titles, different variations on armor would be awesome. They can do the same with weapons and create newer stonger relics rather than upgrading the ones we have so we can look like a paladin or white mage from a different game rather than the IVish one they have now.

[Laraul]

No one had relic weapons in FFXI. Other relic gear yes. But not the weapon. Each relic weapon is augmented with a weapon skill that was augmented with tier 3 skillchain property (i.e. Light or Dark). This allowed people to continue a Light or Dark skillchain one time further. Yet you never saw people using these skillchains. I recall one player I encountered spamming "Knights of the Round" every chance he/she got.

http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Ca...:Relic_Weapons

That goes into detail about what's involved in obtaining relics.

http://www.ffxiah.com/relics

The number of people on FFXIAH who have been seen equipped with a relic.

[CarolinaGMCKSFan]

I recall one player I encountered spamming "Knights of the Round" every chance he/she got.

OT: Ya I probably would have too and picture FFVII every time it went off... 9999 9999 9999 9999 9999 pewpewpew 9999...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=heL6FCojAbI

I also like how FFXI could essentially change a job. Take PLD for example. With Excalibur you went from tanking with SHITTY dps to being able to do fantastic dps. I once saw a parse of an excal pally engaging jol and afking and outparsed all his shells blms.

[Darkillumina]

If this thread has taught me anything it is that SE should not listen to any of us when it comes to relics and what not. Everybody is on a different page and it would be akin to the inmates running the asylum.

Oh and nobody should expect to see Relics or Mythic quests on the scale of FFXI EVER make a reappearance. The days when you would undertake a quest for a real life year are long gone. I can almost guarantee you nothing in 2.0, even relic/mythic quests will ever be as punishing as XI's were. Take that to the bank.

[Okipuit]

Checked with Yoshida-san.

While relic weapons are currently the most powerful, when we release weapons stronger than them, we plan on making it possible to enhance relic weapons. So with that said, keeping relic weapons as a base, we'll look into enhancements so that their stats can catch up to others if they lag behind.

[Majidah]

Checked with Yoshida-san.

While relic weapons are currently the most powerful, when we release weapons stronger than them, we plan on making it possible to enhance relic weapons. So with that said, keeping relic weapons as a base, we'll look into enhancements so that their stats can catch up to others if they lag behind.

I hate the idea of weapons stronger than relics, even if they become upgradeable.

Something better than artemis bow seems ridiculous.

[Arcell]

I hate the idea of weapons stronger than relics, even if they become upgradeable.

Something better than artemis bow seems ridiculous.

Well as the level caps get higher they have to give those without relics something. I mean there should be things better than level 50 relics at higher levels. However with relics being upgradeable they'll catch up and can still be relevant.

[ChiefCurrahee]

I hate the idea of weapons stronger than relics, even if they become upgradeable.

Something better than artemis bow seems ridiculous.

It's a MMO, you need forward progression even for the people who have "topped out". By making Relics the #1 weapon you're going to have a small but significant portion of your player population having nothing better to strive for.

This wouldn't be a problem if Relic acquisition was more of an effort like it was in FFXI were it took a whole alliance several months to years to outfit 1 person with a relic. However in FFXIV you can get several people their relics in a fraction of the time it took 1 person in XI.

To create longevity in the game you can't have people at the finish line quickly and indefinitely.

Introducing weapons which are superior to relics give non hardcore gamers progression and upgrading the top tier relics to more powerful forms give harcore players progression. It's a win/win.

Unless you only play the game for the "I beat this game" mentality. Which begs the question, why do you choose to play a MMO which is constantly evolving and progressing, instead of an offline game which has a clear and defined finish line?

[Velhart]

I hate the idea of weapons stronger than relics, even if they become upgradeable.

Something better than artemis bow seems ridiculous.

Welcome to the world of MMO's. In WoW, each expansion a legendary weapon came out that people sweat blood to obtain, then the next expansion came and they became out dated. It is a cruddy feeling, but that is what happens in a gear progressive game.

It is nice however they are making methods of upgrading them. Honestly, the relics can't be the most powerful forever. Do you not plan on ever getting a new weapon again? It is a fair balance however to keep them the most powerful, but you have to upgrade them again.

I love my Gae Bolg, but I will eventually see the next really cool spear I want with better stats.

We are not in a FFXI style gear system anymore, things are going to get outdated and new goals will be set every major patch. Your own opinion how you feel about it, but this seems to be the case in where the developers want to go with the game. My opinion is that I like it. I am actually not sure how I farmed Sky for over seven years in FFXI, I guess it "worked" for how that game was set up. Today I play a raid for less than six months and want the next thing, guess I am fallen into the basic MMO standards, but I find this method fun and always something new to look forward to.